Need the x3 for the gs/a - goes through the front wheel hub a treat.
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My take on locks is that unless they're diamond rated against angle grinder attack, they're of limited use. From all the vids I've seen of London thefts, thieves are becoming more brazen and make the time by threatening anyone coming close, with hammers or knives, allowing their scumbag mates a few minutes with an angle grinder.
My mates often have a chuckle at me, because I always carry a minimum of 3 layers of defence which always includes the trusty heavyweight Abus Granite Vario disc lock and several other locks and cables. Security to my mind just means using as many layers as is practicable, forcing would be thieves to take a lot longer than they'd like to get through stuff. A minimum of three locks should give a good 6 or 7 minutes defence. I wouldn't bother fitting anything that couldn't withstand at least 2 minutes attack with an angle grinder. They'll always find a way or a tool to combat whatever security you use, short of keeping an Alsatian with big teeth in your topbox....Make it hard for the beggars! Without the top box fitted I guess you are limited to what you can carry unless strapping chains to the rack or pillion seat.
My mates often have a chuckle at me, because I always carry a minimum of 3 layers of defence which always includes the trusty heavyweight Abus Granite Vario disc lock and several other locks and cables. Security to my mind just means using as many layers as is practicable, forcing would be thieves to take a lot longer than they'd like to get through stuff. A minimum of three locks should give a good 6 or 7 minutes defence. I wouldn't bother fitting anything that couldn't withstand at least 2 minutes attack with an angle grinder. They'll always find a way or a tool to combat whatever security you use, short of keeping an Alsatian with big teeth in your topbox....Make it hard for the beggars! Without the top box fitted I guess you are limited to what you can carry unless strapping chains to the rack or pillion seat.
As with clothing, layering is a good idea.
At its most simplest, would a thief rather attempt to steal:
a. A bike with no visible additional security
b. A bike with one item of visible security
c. A bike with more than one item of visible security
Yes, there will be examples of bikes (a) which are never stolen, just as there will be examples of bikes (b) and even (c) which are stolen. That is nothing more than the pound of butter in the fridge rule in action.
Setting aside the likelihood of a thief’s preferences, it is though easy to get carried away, A diamond rated chain is, undoubtably, strong. But, if the bike is not chained to something immovable, then it is simply chained to itself. This will not deter a thief (with or without an angle grinder) who simply wants to lift the bike into a van and be gone. Set against this, a lot of thefts are simple ‘push aways’ (ie no van involved and sometimes no angle grinder either *) where a chain might well help as a deterrent, if nothing more.
The best advice? Do what YOU think is necessary for YOUR bike. If that is nothing, great. If that is layers, great also. Something between? Great, as well. But, whichever you chose, do NOT ignore the butter in the fridge.
* Thefts from bods’ garages or off their drives, are a classic example.
At its most simplest, would a thief rather attempt to steal:
a. A bike with no visible additional security
b. A bike with one item of visible security
c. A bike with more than one item of visible security
Yes, there will be examples of bikes (a) which are never stolen, just as there will be examples of bikes (b) and even (c) which are stolen. That is nothing more than the pound of butter in the fridge rule in action.
Setting aside the likelihood of a thief’s preferences, it is though easy to get carried away, A diamond rated chain is, undoubtably, strong. But, if the bike is not chained to something immovable, then it is simply chained to itself. This will not deter a thief (with or without an angle grinder) who simply wants to lift the bike into a van and be gone. Set against this, a lot of thefts are simple ‘push aways’ (ie no van involved and sometimes no angle grinder either *) where a chain might well help as a deterrent, if nothing more.
The best advice? Do what YOU think is necessary for YOUR bike. If that is nothing, great. If that is layers, great also. Something between? Great, as well. But, whichever you chose, do NOT ignore the butter in the fridge.
* Thefts from bods’ garages or off their drives, are a classic example.
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Thanks for your review.
I’ve considered Litelok products several times for my bicycle and motorbike but felt they were too unwieldy. I’m in the lucky position of not living or commuting to a large town /city and whilst theft is a problem everywhere it is a much lower risk in sleepy S. Wiltshire. So I will carry the huge chain and lock if I have to ride somewhere that merits it.
I’ve considered Litelok products several times for my bicycle and motorbike but felt they were too unwieldy. I’m in the lucky position of not living or commuting to a large town /city and whilst theft is a problem everywhere it is a much lower risk in sleepy S. Wiltshire. So I will carry the huge chain and lock if I have to ride somewhere that merits it.
So does the X1, you just need to line up the hub holes with the caliper mounting arms. It will go through both, it's sung but it does fit. X3 is better but the X1 does fit.
Mine is a 23 GSA, as far as I'm aware there's little to no difference in the wheels/hubs/fork to a GS.
From what I can tell the X3 is more chunky. also £100 more expensive. I'm wanting something for travel not for overnight at home. That is already covered. Thanks for the advice
There's hardly any difference approx 10 - 15mm
thanks TehcnoGSA
Just to confirm before I buy an X1- it will fit my R1200GS? Anyone have a pic of where is best to put it? 
Just to confirm before I buy an X1- it will fit my R1200GS? Anyone have a pic of where is best to put it?
It’s a U-lock which will go thro’ the front wheel of most (if not all) motorbikes.
Question two. Not withstanding the obvious……. Be sure to apply lots of Vaseline first.
Victor c
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If it’s an LC with spoke wheels, it will fit through the holes in the hub.Just to confirm before I buy an X1- it will fit my R1200GS? Anyone have a pic of where is best to put it?
Pale Rider
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Won’t go through the hub on a twin cam has to go round the front wheel/tyre.Won’t go round rear wheel. Easy to carry through, I just lock it around the scaffolding.Just to confirm before I buy an X1- it will fit my R1200GS? Anyone have a pic of where is best to put it?
Impressive. Lock was not cut.
Fancy going around with a 3 foot long bolt cutter
Fancy going around with a 3 foot long bolt cutter
I saw two scrotes on a twist and go in town, the passenger was carrying a big pair of bolt cutters in broad daylight. They should be fair game for knocking over by the police, two seconds of siren followed by a swift ram if they didn't stop immediately.
GS2022
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