Lost all my 'Finds' on my 2610

[Steve B]

Don't know why but I've lost my 'Find' list on the GPS, the one with the scrolling page (points of interest, petrol stns etc). I only have Recent finds/Cities/Exits/Waypoints. Can't even find a place using a postcode.
Don't know where it's gone or why.
Anyone give some assistance as to how to get it back.
I have removed the CF card and used it in the camera, formatted it before putting back in the GPS unit. Reloaded the maps with overlaid speed camera map.
I thought the card held the maps and the unit has the operating system.

Help! Urgent! PLEEEEEASE


Steve B

 

[ianm00]

Don't know why but I've lost my 'Find' list on the GPS, the one with the scrolling page (points of interest, petrol stns etc). I only have Recent finds/Cities/Exits/Waypoints. Can't even find a place using a postcode.
Don't know where it's gone or why.
Anyone give some assistance as to how to get it back.
I have removed the CF card and used it in the camera, formatted it before putting back in the GPS unit. Reloaded the maps with overlaid speed camera map.
I thought the card held the maps and the unit has the operating system.

Help! Urgent! PLEEEEEASE


Steve B

Maybe if you try and download the latest software upgrade for the 2610 from the garmin web site will fix your problem? Just an idea

I have loaded my 2610 with the latest 4.7 software version without any problems.
Ian

 

[PanEuropean]

Hi Steve:

I'm pretty sure the cause of your problem is this: You don't have any maps loaded on your CF card, and for that reason, the GPSR is not presenting you with menus that you cannot use (e.g. finding something that requires a cartographic database to be present).

Try the following troubleshooting suggestions:

1) Check the GPSR to make sure that the mapset you (think) you have loaded on the CF card is enabled, meaning, it has a check mark beside it indicating that you want to use that mapset.

2) Check the CF card to make sure you actually have a mapset on it. You can do this by hooking up the GPSR to your computer, and choosing 'Receive from Device' on the MapSource menu, then checking the 'maps' box. If you have maps on the CF card, they will appear in a list on the MapSource window on the PC.

Bottom line - I doubt that you have a mapset on the CF card, and that's why the GPSR is not offering to search for things that it knows it cannot find.

Michael

 

[Steve B]

Hi Steve:

I'm pretty sure the cause of your problem is this: You don't have any maps loaded on your CF card, and for that reason, the GPSR is not presenting you with menus that you cannot use (e.g. finding something that requires a cartographic database to be present).

Try the following troubleshooting suggestions:

1) Check the GPSR to make sure that the mapset you (think) you have loaded on the CF card is enabled, meaning, it has a check mark beside it indicating that you want to use that mapset.

2) Check the CF card to make sure you actually have a mapset on it. You can do this by hooking up the GPSR to your computer, and choosing 'Receive from Device' on the MapSource menu, then checking the 'maps' box. If you have maps on the CF card, they will appear in a list on the MapSource window on the PC.

Bottom line - I doubt that you have a mapset on the CF card, and that's why the GPSR is not offering to search for things that it knows it cannot find.

Michael

Many thanks for the advice to this numpty.
I'll give it a try. I obviously don't understand the difference between what is stored on the GPS and what is on the CF card (if that's how it is). I had downloaded the V7 & the Camera sights onto the unit so was still confused as I could see them on the screen.

for the assistance and suggestions.


Steve B

 

[Steve B]

PS

Could I download the maps onto the CF card directly using a card reader from my laptop without downloading via the GPS unit? Just a thought to simplify my (mis)understanding of confusion.

Steve B

 

[PanEuropean]

Hi Steve:

Don't feel bad about not being sure what is stored on the CF card and what is stored elsewhere inside the GPSR - it's not exactly intuitive.

For the record, here's a list of what goes where:

Inside the GPSR (not on the CF card, Garmin card, or in map memory):

1) The system software that runs the GPSR.
2) User Waypoints - now called 'Favorites' on the newer models.
3) Routes
4) The track log
5) Marine proximity waypoints (e.g. on 276 and other marine/auto GPSRs)
6) Jeppesen data, terrain data, obstacle data for aviation GPSRs
7) Voices without names (not the newer 'text to speech' voices)
8) The satellite almanac (like a TV guide for the GPSR, the almanac tells the GPSR where the satellites will be)
9) User configuration data (settings), including the position the GPSR was in when it was last turned off.

On the CF card, Garmin card, or in the memory allocated to map storage:

1) Maps (duh... )
2) Automotive Proximity Waypoints (speed cameras, etc.)
3) Music and Audible Books, if your GPSR supports this (e.g. 28xx, 7xxx)
4) Voices with names (the newest generation of voices that can pronounce street names on 27xx, 28xx and 7xxx GPSRs)
5) Lists of BMW dealers, if you have a BMW Navigator
6) Anything else you want to store in free space on the CF card (you copy the files directly from your computer to the CF card).

Your idea of loading the CF card by sticking it directly into your computer is an excellent one - that is the fastest possible way of loading the card. You can buy a PCMCIA adapter that holds a CF card for about ₤10. Use MapSource to build the mapsets and transfer them to the card - MapSource will detect the CF card once your computer operating system (Windows) mounts it. Do not defragment CF cards - it screws them up and shortens their useful life - and do not mess with the folder hierarchy on the CF card. Do not reformat the CF card either. I think that the CF cards that come with Garmin GPSRs are FAT 32 format, but I'm not 100% sure about that (only about 98% sure). If you have used the card in some other device - such as a camera - that does not support FAT 32, you might have to reformat it back to FAT 32 before it works again in your GPSR.

Hope this info helps.

Michael

 

[Steve B]

Hi Steve:

Don't feel bad about not being sure what is stored on the CF card and what is stored elsewhere inside the GPSR - it's not exactly intuitive.

For the record, here's a list of what goes where:

Inside the GPSR (not on the CF card, Garmin card, or in map memory):

1) The system software that runs the GPSR.
2) User Waypoints - now called 'Favorites' on the newer models.
3) Routes
4) The track log
5) Marine proximity waypoints (e.g. on 276 and other marine/auto GPSRs)
6) Jeppesen data, terrain data, obstacle data for aviation GPSRs
7) Voices without names (not the newer 'text to speech' voices)
8) The satellite almanac (like a TV guide for the GPSR, the almanac tells the GPSR where the satellites will be)
9) User configuration data (settings), including the position the GPSR was in when it was last turned off.

On the CF card, Garmin card, or in the memory allocated to map storage:

1) Maps (duh... )
2) Automotive Proximity Waypoints (speed cameras, etc.)
3) Music and Audible Books, if your GPSR supports this (e.g. 28xx, 7xxx)
4) Voices with names (the newest generation of voices that can pronounce street names on 27xx, 28xx and 7xxx GPSRs)
5) Lists of BMW dealers, if you have a BMW Navigator
6) Anything else you want to store in free space on the CF card (you copy the files directly from your computer to the CF card).

Your idea of loading the CF card by sticking it directly into your computer is an excellent one - that is the fastest possible way of loading the card. You can buy a PCMCIA adapter that holds a CF card for about ₤10. Use MapSource to build the mapsets and transfer them to the card - MapSource will detect the CF card once your computer operating system (Windows) mounts it. Do not defragment CF cards - it screws them up and shortens their useful life - and do not mess with the folder hierarchy on the CF card. Do not reformat the CF card either. I think that the CF cards that come with Garmin GPSRs are FAT 32 format, but I'm not 100% sure about that (only about 98% sure). If you have used the card in some other device - such as a camera - that does not support FAT 32, you might have to reformat it back to FAT 32 before it works again in your GPSR.

Hope this info helps.

Michael

Again I'm not the first and I won't be the last to praise your helpful genius.
Loaded the maps using my card reader and everything is back to normal.
You have muddied the water somewhat regarding the cards and their life expectancy. I have Canon cameras and run them using the CF cards. I have to admit I've swapped them over AND formatted them too. I've obviously done wrong
Not sure what exactly you mean by defraging the card or the folder heirachy and I didn't realise you couldshorten their life and don't get me started on FAT 32 format! Maybe that's not such a bad thing anyway as if I don't know what it means I can't therefore do it. I try and keep things simple anyway (too much infoamtion can be a bad thing).
Anyway, thanks again Michael for the help and guidance.
You are indeed a GPS Jedi :cloak

Steve B (now with his found finds)

 

[Mouse]

To be pedantic you don't shorten the life of a flash memory device by defragging it, but you do use up some of its limited write cycles. That is to say, each memory location on the device can be written to a limited number of times - and operations like defragging will cause a lot of writes to occur.

Don't get paranoid about writing to the device normally though, the expected life of most memory is something like 1 million writes, although on older devices I suppose it could be 100,000 ish.

(Not disagreeing with Mr Pan's info, just clarifying the process)

 

[PanEuropean]

It's probably worth adding that it is quite pointless to 'defragment' a solid state memory device of any kind, because there is no benefit to be gained from doing so. Defragmenting storage devices that require physical activity to access them (whether this is your hard drive, or your beer fridge) reduces the amount of physical activity (read/write head movement, or beer-bottle grasping arm movement) required to access the material stored in the device. But, if no physical movement is needed to access stored material - as is the case with solid state memory, or draught beer stored in a keg - then it's pointless to defrag it.

Michael

 

[Mouse]

Hmm, a beer based analogy, I like it