My mate is down!

Mutley1150 said:
There by the grace of god go Snooty and me :eek:
Exactly. :( No matter how safe you ride, accidents can still happen as you may not have any time to react if someone else fails to keep a bend.

Dirtdog, I sympathise with you and your mate. I've not been in your position, and obviously hope I never will be, but I just hope it works out alright in the end, for both of you.
 
I used to ride out with a group of lads all with sports bikes.They rode so fast and dangerously that on one ride I simply stopped with 2 other riders,and we went our own way for the rest of the day as we were not prepared to take the risks they were taking.How any of them got home in one piece I'll never know.Overtaking on blind bends,over crests etc.But the biggest worry was they they thought in was funny.Twats. :nono
 
Sad to read about such a tragic but all too common occurrence. Just got rid of my Gixer 750K4 because I was pushing my luck just a bit too much. Hope I can settle down a bit on the GS, especially after reading this. Hope your friend makes a full and speedy recovery. Condolences to the family of the guy who died.

John
 
Hi Stu, saddened by your experience, and your mates condition, seemingly through no fault of his own, wish him a good recovery. Reminds me that this sort of thing is not uncommon, back in the sixties a few of you may remember Mary Dudgeon from Bridgnorth lost her right leg when a lad on a 250 crossed the white line on a left hander and ran into her BMW R69, (I think) her husband and her brother built her a couple of much modified BMW and chairs so she could still enjoy her beloved motorcycling (the last one being a beautiful white BMW 1000cc air head with a home made Stieb replica, which I imagine is still Out There in Pipe and Slipper land :thumb ).
Mary sadly died of a heart attack doing what she loved, riding in the Stella a few years ago and I believe her husband and her brother still live in Bridgnorth.
Take care out there, it's a dangerous World.
 
Sad news.

I wish them all a speedy recovery

Starting to read too many stories like these :(
 
:( Sorry to hear the news dirtydog. Please give your m8s my best wishes and hopes for a full recovery.
I always think this time of year is a bit scary, when the summer crowd first comes out to play. :(
 
This is a really harrowing tale.

Whatever care we take and however much training we are all still reliant on some luck to avoid meeting our Maker prematurely. Thankgoodness your mate will live to tell the story. Unfortunately the other poor devil hasn't.

There is no question that given the vulnerability of us bikers we need to look after ourselves in whatever way we can. Yep - I am IAM and proud of it as I believe it may give me the opportunity to remain lucky. As for sports bikes I have one of those too and I can't help but feel many of the previous comments suggest ones personality changes when you get your leg over a sportsbike. The fact is 'man maketh the sportsbike' - not the other way round.

I ride with the same principles in place whatever and probably make more progress on the GS cos I can see better from the elevated riding position.

However the best thing I have ever done is to go on track days regularly - its what I live for during the summer. You can go as mad as you like in relative safety without endagering anyone else. It crystalizes just how dangerous the road is for excess speed and of course you don't need your thrills on the road anymore. The other thing it does is give you the chance to see how far you can lean and how quick you can turn. How useful is that if you get into an unexpected situation on the road. It might even be a lifesaver (even someone elses).

Not my intention to pontificate at this delicate time just a long winded way of saying that maybe we should persuade our sportsbike mates to get some extra training and a few track days under their belt with a view to developing the right attitude on the road - God knows we all need lower insurance costs!

'Scooie'
 
My thoughts are with your friend and yourself.

To be honest I wasn't going to post on this thread, reason being I lost a very dear friend in a bike accident at the start of april and putting the past weeks into words doesn't sit well with me, that said, I feel the following might be a reality check for one of us? - where to start?

There's a lot of talk of speed and sportsbikes etc here and while I agree with the majority - I think what I've come to learn in the past month or so is even more sobering. My friends accicent happened in a 30. He wasn't speeding. he took a corner that is but 2 mins from my parents house ( the house I grew up in and on a corner I've been around a thousand plus times since I was 16). Simply put - something happened and he didn't make the corner - the police can't say what, but he was riding within his limits and those of the road, he hit the kerb and inturn he hit road furniture. His injuries were internal, in short his own bones shattered and destroyed all his internal organs - he carried a donar card - there was nothing the hospital coulld salvage. I have his bike, as the family have asked me to deal with it, and if you didn't know the horror of what had happened you'd think the bike had lowsided at 10mph, even the mirrors and indicators are intact.

I've walked the accident site, seen the chalk marks and the scrapes left by the few bits of metal that touched down and it all makes no sense. So... the reason I'm posting: let's not forget we are all very fragile creatures - it doesn't take an almighty smash to kill us - it can just go very bad - very quickly where and when we least expect it. He didn't ride a sportsbike and while he was spirited, he was a father of two and knew it. I honesty can't explain how I feel right now, I was honoured to be Pall Bearer at his funeral, but by the grace of god I never want to experience that again. I flip flop daily between giving up riding and not. If my wife said "stop" tomorrow I would... I love bikes, but they aren't worth dying over.

An accidents an accident - I know this. So if it doesn't happen on a bike it can happen crossing the road, do I/we stop doing he things we love because they might hurt us..?. Rupert Paul wrote in last months Bike that he'd been to 4 funerals in the past year - and all they had done is strenghthen his resolve to ride and enjoy life. I'm on the fence and will be for a while yet I'm sure. Just for christ sakes think about everything you do when your on the road - I'm not preaching here, I just think we should be under no illusions, we are fragile units no matter how much hardware we cloak ourselves in. Don't let your guard down just because your doing 20mph down the high st instead of 120mph down the motorway - nothing's turns out like you expect it. If you trip and fall while walking it hurts like a bugger, so hit the same pavement at 20mph you can only imagine.

God bless and be safe.
 
PCH-101 said:
My thoughts are with your friend and yourself.

To be honest I wasn't going to post on this thread, reason being I lost a very dear friend in a bike accident at the start of april and putting the past weeks into words doesn't sit well with me, that said, I feel the following might be a reality check for one of us? - where to start?

There's a lot of talk of speed and sportsbikes etc here and while I agree with the majority - I think what I've come to learn in the past month or so is even more sobering. My friends accicent happened in a 30. He wasn't speeding. he took a corner that is but 2 mins from my parents house ( the house I grew up in and on a corner I've been around a thousand plus times since I was 16). Simply put - something happened and he didn't make the corner - the police can't say what, but he was riding within his limits and those of the road, he hit the kerb and inturn he hit road furniture. His injuries were internal, in short his own bones shattered and destroyed all his internal organs - he carried a donar card - there was nothing the hospital coulld salvage. I have his bike, as the family have asked me to deal with it, and if you didn't know the horror of what had happened you'd think the bike had lowsided at 10mph, even the mirrors and indicators are intact.

I've walked the accident site, seen the chalk marks and the scrapes left by the few bits of metal that touched down and it all makes no sense. So... the reason I'm posting: let's not forget we are all very fragile creatures - it doesn't take an almighty smash to kill us - it can just go very bad - very quickly where and when we least expect it. He didn't ride a sportsbike and while he was spirited, he was a father of two and knew it. I honesty can't explain how I feel right now, I was honoured to be Pall Bearer at his funeral, but by the grace of god I never want to experience that again. I flip flop daily between giving up riding and not. If my wife said "stop" tomorrow I would... I love bikes, but they aren't worth dying over.

An accidents an accident - I know this. So if it doesn't happen on a bike it can happen crossing the road, do I/we stop doing he things we love because they might hurt us..?. Rupert Paul wrote in last months Bike that he'd been to 4 funerals in the past year - and all they had done is strenghthen his resolve to ride and enjoy life. I'm on the fence and will be for a while yet I'm sure. Just for christ sakes think about everything you do when your on the road - I'm not preaching here, I just think we should be under no illusions, we are fragile units no matter how much hardware we cloak ourselves in. Don't let your guard down just because your doing 20mph down the high st instead of 120mph down the motorway - nothing's turns out like you expect it. If you trip and fall while walking it hurts like a bugger, so hit the same pavement at 20mph you can only imagine.

God bless and be safe.

A very sentimental reply, and I hope that you feel better for typing it?

It really hits home when someone close to you gets killed, as sadly most of us know all to well. :(

As a active cyclist, over the years I have seen far to many "friends" killed, in fact more than people I know that have been killed on motorcycles. :(

If fact, I have been in similar situation as you just a short while ago when a very dear friend was knocked down and killed at a T junction. He was riding to meet us one frosty morning, a car comes up to the junction with just a very small area of frost cleared from his windscreen. The car stopped but could not see out of his side windows due to the ice, so he "assumed" that the road was clear and pulled out.

My friend by this time was right in front of his car, he did not stand a chance, the car just drove straight over him and killed him instantly breaking most of his bones in the process. :spitfire

If the twat had cleared his side windows then Alan would most likely still be here today.

It really does strike a raw nerve and it makes you stop and think for a while doesnt it?

As time moves on, the pain (although it will always be there) will ease and life will hopefully get better.

BTBR
 
Well, Scott is making good progress, physically at least. I know when the pain subsides a little then the depression will set in. On my visit to him on Thursday I told him what a lucky fecker he was to have survived such an horrific crash. He replied, "you call this lucky?" He's yet to find out the other rider died!!!!!!

I too feel this uncertainty about riding a bike. It's not easy riding 35 miles home after visiting him. Scott's a proud independent lad, to see him lay there unable to move and to let me feed him and brush his teeth is an unreal feeling. I really can't put it into words!

What do you say when he says, "get rid of that bike mate while you still can!" My girl tells me to, my parents and non riding friends too. At this present moment this battle rages within me.

Apparently, the lad that died was a 42 year old with 2 kids from Shrewsbury. The other lad who came off with them said they were going about 80-90mph. The bike who hit them came around the corner apparently on a recently laid road surface and ploughed into Scott.

There's a cynical part of me that's saying, if they had been doing the speed limit, then this could have been avoided? Wrong place wrong time!
 
sad news

Alan,
I think your right, particularly on those roads where folks tear around !!
So sad to here and well another reason to get off the beaten track.
It makes you realise that we are all vulnerable and as usual its not your own ability that gets you into trouble but some other road user making a mistake.....food for thought...... and yes, the track is a greatb place to go for it !!
Matkat

BTBR said:
Sorry to read this, :(

On another note, is it me or do there seem to be more & more accidents with motorcycles each other hitting head on. :confused:
 
dirtydog said:
Well, Scott is making good progress, physically at least. I know when the pain subsides a little then the depression will set in. On my visit to him on Thursday I told him what a lucky fecker he was to have survived such an horrific crash. He replied, "you call this lucky?" He's yet to find out the other rider died!!!!!!

I too feel this uncertainty about riding a bike. It's not easy riding 35 miles home after visiting him. Scott's a proud independent lad, to see him lay there unable to move and to let me feed him and brush his teeth is an unreal feeling. I really can't put it into words!

What do you say when he says, "get rid of that bike mate while you still can!" My girl tells me to, my parents and non riding friends too. At this present moment this battle rages within me.

Apparently, the lad that died was a 42 year old with 2 kids from Shrewsbury. The other lad who came off with them said they were going about 80-90mph. The bike who hit them came around the corner apparently on a recently laid road surface and ploughed into Scott.

There's a cynical part of me that's saying, if they had been doing the speed limit, then this could have been avoided? Wrong place wrong time!

Hi,
I have been reading this for a few days and was so upset by what has happened to youand your friend. It really has made me think more. I wanted to just say how sorry I am about your mate. You are truly a good friend to him and he will need your strength for a long time to come - his wife too.
It is so hard to know how to feel when something like this happens. I have been a biker for such a short period of time compared to others and I LOVE being on my bike (I am 41)- BUT - I have a son whom I adopted 4 years ago - who is now 91/2 - and my husband and I, although we love to ride, feel so worried about seeing us or him hurt when we are all out together. Like you, my family and non-riding mates are always going on about "the other rider or car that doesn't see you" and we have known (like most folk) people who have been hurt or injured and worse) - sometimes through their stupidity and sometimes through the mistakes of others. Riding in London - people try to literally take you out to get 2 inches ahead of you! Its madness!!
THere are no real answers but to go with your guts. You are a good person and now that this has happened to you "close to home" you will have so much to think about. I wish you well in that and whatever you decide to do will be the right decision. :)
All the best,
Amy
 
Thanks for your kind words Amy!

Things are getting better and family and friends are in better spirit on seeing him slowly recover. Obviously Scott is very depressed, the rest of the year is going to be difficult for everyone.

I know this will change his whole out-look on life. They have an 18 month old baby who at the moment, is missing his Daddy. I guess now he'll be realising that bikes aren't everything and that family and friends are.

I think trying to get that balance of living a happy life for yourself and also thinking about what the consequences of finding your happiness will have upon people who care about you, is extremely difficult, and at times quite a torment!

I just hope he manages to get that 'buzz' elsewhere in the future!
 
DD, sorry I'm a bit late, with the get wells, just read this, having got out of hospital last week, following a nasty spill, myself. Regards to your mate, although I'm sure the mental scars will take longer to heal than the physical ones, following this tragedy.... :(
 
Schwarz Baron said:
DD, sorry I'm a bit late, with the get wells, just read this, having got out of hospital last week, following a nasty spill, myself. Regards to your mate, although I'm sure the mental scars will take longer to heal than the physical ones, following this tragedy.... :(

Cheers mate!

Just noticed on another thread you had a nasty spill!

Sorry to hear, but I'm glad you're ok and on the mend!

Look after yourself mate! :thumb
 
Hope your mate and his family recover soon.

I say family because my brother had a head on with a car two years ago. Had 2 foot of his bowel and a foot of his colon removed (had a poo bag for 9 months before they joined him up :eek: ). Also fractured his pelvis, had the bones in his leg pinned and smashed his wrist.
Thought he would never ride again, but he's just ordered a new 1200 adventurer!!
I spent 6 weeks going to intensive care everyday whilst I watched my brother walk the tightrope between life and death. Not much fun, I know.
You never get over it but it should never stop you doing what we all love.
Some accidents can be avoided, some can't, but you can't wrap yourself in cotton wool.
I agree that the standard of driving and riding is awful. When you ride, take this into consideration. The only assumption you can make is that if you get it wrong it will hurt (if your lucky!!).
Ride safe all, and think about this thread next time you want to hoon. :thumb
 
DD

Have just read this thread and as has been said sorry to hear of your mates accident,Glad to hear that although slow he is on the mend.

Schultz
 
Not much to be said DD and PCH-101...

The fickle finger of fate points, and then moves on....

My thoughts are with you.

Micky
 


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