Navigator 11 or 2610 ?

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I have tried the search but no definitive answer except ££££ difference

Are these two both made by Garmin? Are they the same? Do they use the same power sockets/mounts?

It seems, after looking at other threads that both use Garmin Mapsource software?

Huge difference in price ?

These questions are for a friend- I am a Quest man and love it :D
 
There are differences and Nadeem will be along shortly to tell you what a fantastic thing the Nav II is and it just might be the one for your friend.

If you need an electronic compass, and you need a 2 GB card pre-loaded with all the maps, and you need the extra buttons provided by the extended bracket with the pod, and you need a 2 year warranty, then you need NAVII and you'll just have to swallow the extra cost.

Otherwise they are both made by Garmin, use the same Mapsource software, both mount on the bike, the 2610 will not come with a bike power lead or a bike bracket and only a 256MB card but these are readily available and will not cost anywhere near as much as the NAVII kit, and the 256MB card is ample for all but the most extravagant of trips if used creatively.

That having been said there is a new kid soon on the block in the 2720 and IMHO that'll blow the NAVII out of the water and if your friend has the cash for a NAVII he should take a long hard look at the 2720 :thumb
 
Yea, I pretty much agree with Judge.

The BMW Nav II is, basically, a 26xx series GPSR that has been customized by BMW for use on motorcycles. It comes with an additional button pad, a few additional software tweaks (nothing to die for), and the kit includes all the wiring, brackets, etc. that you need to put it on a BMW motorcycle. It also has a BMW label on it.

You could get a Garmin 26xx GPSR and buy a motorcycle mounting kit (and cable) from either Garmin or an aftermarket supplier.

Garmin will soon be releasing a new series of GPSRs called the 27xx series. These come with all the European maps preloaded onto solid state memory (totally sealed up), have somewhat higher screen resolution, and work faster. They also support the TMC function (traffic message channel), although you have to buy an additional component at a cost of about USD $200 for that functionality. They also have the ability to accept an upload of lat/long identifications of speed cameras, and will provide you with a warning whenever you approach one. But, Garmin does not supply this database, you have to create your own.

Probably (just my guess, no inside knowledge at all) BMW will come out with a Nav III that uses the 27xx as the base GPSR.

Your friend might want to keep his money in his wallet until he has a chance to see the 2720. At that point, he will be able to decide between a 2720, a 26xx, or a BMW product. I strongly suspect that the prices of the Nav II and the 26xx will fall once the 2720 is released to market.

Again, everything I have said is my own opinion and speculation, I have zero inside information.

Michael
 
judge said:
There are differences and Nadeem will be along shortly to tell you what a fantastic thing the Nav II is and it just might be the one for your friend.

Not again.... :eek: Your friend should check out both and but what he likes best...I like the Sat Nav II because of the reasons that Judge stated...two year warranty being a key reason...plus the extra buttons.
 
My 2610 came with a year's warranty.

Total waste of fecking money - I've had it three years now and I'm still waiting for it to go wrong!

When I come to part with it, I'm going to spray in black and glue on a BMW badge that I've prised off a key-fob. Then I can offer it on eBay as a Nav II - no-one will be able to tell the difference, and some tosser will come along and pay me loads extra for it because they like stuff with a BMW badge on it.

Which reminds me, I must post a photograph of my new BMW gloves. Actually they are really good - comfortable, amoured, warm yet supple AND they have a BMW badge sewn in. North Weald Saturday market - ten quid!

"All that glitters is not Gucci!"

Greg
 
PanEuropean said:
Your friend might want to keep his money in his wallet until he has a chance to see the 2720. At that point, he will be able to decide between a 2720, a 26xx, or a BMW product. I strongly suspect that the prices of the Nav II and the 26xx will fall once the 2720 is released to market.

Micheal, is the 2720 really worth £400 (less a 2Gb CF card) more than a 2610?

GPS Warehouse prices 2720 and 2610
 
samwise said:
Micheal, is the 2720 really worth £400 (less a 2Gb CF card) more than a 2610?

GPS Warehouse prices 2720 and 2610

If you are in the States and there is a 150 difference and that total price being 700, I suggest the 2720 is great for all things.:D

But you cannot get that deal:D

Sorry, thought I would advertise the USA discounting that it currently going on.!

TTFN:D
 
PanEuropean said:
.. I strongly suspect that the prices of the Nav II and the 26xx will fall once the 2720 is released to market.
I'm thinking up upgrading to a 2610, so any idea from anyone when that is likely to be?
 
samwise said:
Micheal, is the 2720 really worth £400 (less a 2Gb CF card) more than a 2610?

Hi Ben:

That is a really tough question to answer, because the answer will vary depending on the needs (real or perceived) of each user.

If your needs from a GPSR are limited to simply telling you where you are, there are many units available for under ₤100 that will do that. If you need automatic route generation for motor vehicles from the GPSR, and plan to stay mostly within one country all the time, there are quite a few units that will do that, starting with the StreetPilot III, which is an older, out of production unit that can probably be had for ₤150 or so on the used market.

If you need cross-continent coverage because you do a lot of international travel, that limits the field to the GPSRs that have significant amounts of storage space for the maps, assuming you don't want to bring a laptop computer along with you, to reload new maps every night. In practice, this means the 26xx series or its derivatives, such as the BMW Nav II.

If you need TMC (traffic message channel) notification of real-time traffic problems - and this could be a very real need for a commercial driver - then there are only two units available that support that.

If you need advance notification of user-defined waypoints (e.g. speed cameras), again, there are only a few units that incorporate that function within a GPSR that also provides route generation.

If you need a large screen, so you can see it easily, that rules out some of the smaller units which are quite functional, but also quite difficult to read at a glance, especially for the 40 years and older crowd.

So - what all this means is that each individual user has to define what their needs are - and, hopefully, not get confused by the 'features vs. benefits' trap that we often fall into when purchasing consumer electronics. It doesn't matter how many features a gizmo has, if we don't really need the feature, it isn't a benefit to us, and it isn't worth paying for. For example, in Switzerland, motos are allowed to split lanes if traffic is at a standstill, and the Swiss car drivers are normally pretty courteous to the moto riders who are splitting lanes - they pull to either side to let the motos through. So, notification of traffic jams, for a moto rider in Switzerland, is a feature, but really not much of a benefit, if you know what I mean.

So far as Garmin's product line is concerned - they have a vast range of automotive GPSRs now, covering just about every possible level of need, ranging from quite inexpensive to very expensive. The tough part now is to find exactly which one meets your needs, and not buy more product than you have to. The best way to do the research, once you get past the obvious (reading the info on the manufacturer websites) is to talk to people who own a certain model, and use it for the same purpose that you intend to use it for. Within this community, that purpose is generally understood to be recreational motorcycle travel.

Michael
 
I think I'll probably be buying the 2610 at some point (want to be able to load CN NA on it for a trip to the US in 2007, maybe), so was just wondering on the basic differences for people only wanting to go to one Garmin "area" :thumb

Unless, of course, a Quest with more memory comes out to bridge the price difference :D

Commuter said:
If you are in the States and there is a 150 difference and that total price being 700, I suggest the 2720 is great for all things.:D

But you cannot get that deal:D

Sorry, thought I would advertise the USA discounting that it currently going on.!

TTFN:D

This would be a ride through your neck of the woods in summer 2007 (prbly) - got a nice thread going on ADVRider about it :D
 


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