Newbie Bike, Still Alive, Which Course?

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I passed my test last August, have survived 6 months scidaddling around london daily, but limited fast road experience. I think I need more trainihg, but not sure which - IAM, bikesafe, circuit, offroad?

If it helps, I'm nervous of cornering fast and or braking in the wet - basically i'm nervous in the wet! But as I normally ride like a wimp, I don't have a feel yet for when the bike is about to skid, and although I survived after locking up the rear a few times on an SV 650, I'd dont feel I have the reflexes to survive a bad skid.

As a cyclist & driver for 30 years, I am fairly conscious about observation & visual checks, but feel my riding craft is poor. Can anyone advise which training to do first, for optimum £/result ?
 
I passed my test last August, have survived 6 months scidaddling around london daily, but limited fast road experience. I think I need more trainihg, but not sure which - IAM, bikesafe, circuit, offroad?

If it helps, I'm nervous of cornering fast and or braking in the wet - basically i'm nervous in the wet! But as I normally ride like a wimp, I don't have a feel yet for when the bike is about to skid, and although I survived after locking up the rear a few times on an SV 650, I'd dont feel I have the reflexes to survive a bad skid.

As a cyclist & driver for 30 years, I am fairly conscious about observation & visual checks, but feel my riding craft is poor. Can anyone advise which training to do first, for optimum £/result ?

I was in a similar situation a couple of years ago and went with RoSPA. I would highly recommend this route as it teaches you confidence with safety and is spread over as much time as you need, and costs virtually nothing :thumb2

Good luck.
 
Do it all !

DJ is right about RoSPA and road riding however , you seem to be asking about acquiring a "feel" for what the bike is doing and it's capacity to do more than you are currently asking of it . In short , you are wanting to learn how to interpret feedback and retain full control of the bike , particularly in adverse conditions .

So , the quickest and safest route to learning about adhesion in all its guises is to go off-road , trials bikes are best - small , light , not as fast as crossers but still able to let you discover the results of your actions . You'll learn what a rear , front , two wheel , slide , wheelie , stoppie all feel like and begin to appreciate what you are doing to instigate each of them . Your nearest Trials club will be full of welcoming folk who would be glad to give you local info. as to how to access your first step . If you fancy more speed then move up/across to enduro / motocross and scare yourself in relative safety . There are some excellent off-road schools and instructors , usually based around one to three day courses - you will be amazed at the difference in your riding . Info re Trials and Motocross is to be found in T&MX (Trials and Motocross) , published every Friday , containing a list of local clubs , events , courses and an excellent place to start .Go along to your local Trial , Enduro , Motocross and get asking about .

Having learned about bike control now is the time to look to take your riding to the next level - track , road , competition , whatever ticks your box . IAM , RoSPA , Bikesafe , Enhanced Rider , Advanced Riding instruction , circuit based training etc. Have a look at what is available near to you and choose the group or individual that you feel most comfortable with , each is different and has its own strengths - the determining factor is what suits you best .

The only certainty is that you'll have a whale of a time , throughly enjoy yourself and ; perhaps , wonder how you managed to survive intact for so long !

All the best , Jim .
 
Thanks Jim, really useful comments.

I'm like BuzzFan - happy until it gets difficult, and in search of more confidence. I had already thought of trials bikes. Only trouble is, I'm afraid if I get another bike the GS will bully its little brother!
 
but feel my riding craft is poor. Can anyone advise which training to do first, for optimum £/result ?

Fill your tank with petrol. Ride lots.
Repeat the above.

:thumb2

Seriously that's a large part of it, just getting miles under your belt. I remember suddenly feeling much better on my bike about 6000miles after I passed my test. Several hundred thousand later I'm still a crap rider. :rolleyes:
 
Fill your tank with petrol. Ride lots.
Repeat the above.

:thumb2

Seriously that's a large part of it, just getting miles under your belt. I remember suddenly feeling much better on my bike about 6000miles after I passed my test. Several hundred thousand later I'm still a crap rider. :rolleyes:

I am not 100% with you on that one ..

People that ride the bike lots gets better at bike control, but they pick up bad habits.

Things I learnt on a course with Mike I would never have figured out by myself. BUT once taught, you can practice to make yourself perfect at it.
 
THANKS

Thanks all for the advice - I'll book a trials taster - silly not to as I've a dream trials competition bike - and try one of each of the road training sessions over the next few months.

I definitely agree I need max number of miles, but am sure being pushed/coached by an instructor to corner properly will improve me at a far faster rate than trial and error on my own. This was also the experience of the columnist Erin Baker - I downloaded every blog she wrote whilst transitioning from newbie DAS rider through to circuit competition.
 


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