Nippy Normans Canister for USA Charcoal Fulter Space.

[Dainese Brave]

Just a general enquiry....

...I've finally bitten the bullet and bought a 2010 GSA...

...and I'm just in the throws of ordering some extras for it..some that I'd not even fitted to my 06 GSA.

One of them is the bottle Nippy Normans do for the space meant for the charcoal filter needed in America.

....my question is...some threads and posts have suggested using this for storing oil...

.....but I was wondering whether it could be used for storing fuel?

...I tend do do tours in the summer in hot, remote, climates, and I was wondering if the location would get too hot to store fuel, or too vunerable? But I like the thought of having a reserve supply of fuel just to get me out of trouble.

All replies gratefully received.

 

[Giles]

I have a new 2010 Bike !! and I fitted the oil bottle from nippy normans. I recently did quite a few miles around Scotland with a couple of 990 adventures who did decide to take plastic Jerry cans, and ended up using them. (They conked out of gas twice ...). Likewise, I used the oil bottle and ended up emptying it. (we were hooning it .... ).

I don't think you'd benefit from the amount of petrol you could actually store in it. I think its better off for oil, and if you're going somewhere remote, cargo net a 5l petrol can to your pillion seat. That would be my suggestion.

 

[Wapping]

The bottle holds 0.8 of a litre.

0.8 of a litre is about 1.36 pints.

1.36 pints is 17% of a gallon.

Let's say your 1200GS does about 45 miles to the gallon.

17% of 45 miles is about 7.5 miles.

Let's hope the nearest fuel station is not eight miles away (or more) in the hot, remote climes.

Will it boil? Definitely no.

Will it expand in the heat? Probably yes.

If it expands, might it spray petrol over you / the area you are standing when you unscrew the cap? Probably yes.

Are leaking petrol vapours / oxygenated fuel spray good? No.

 

[Kremmen]

The bottle holds 0.8 of a litre.

0.8 of a litre is about 1.36 pints.

1.36 pints is 17% of a gallon.

Let's say your 1200GS does about 45 miles to the gallon.

17% of 45 miles is about 7.5 miles.

Let's hope the nearest fuel station is not eight miles away (or more) in the hot, remote climes.

Will it boil? Definitely no.

Will it expand in the heat? Probably yes.

If it expands, might it spray petrol over you / the area you are standing when you unscrew the cap? Probably yes.

Are leaking petrol vapours / fuel spray good? No.

Just for clarification you understand .... is that a US or Imperial gallon one is referring...

 

[Dainese Brave]

17% of 45 miles is about 7.5 miles.

Let's hope the nearest fuel station is not eight miles away (or more) in the hot, remote climes.

.

8 miles is better than nothing if you've just run out...anywhere regardless of climate.

 

[Wapping]

If you fear / anticipate running out of fuel in the arrid wastes, 0.8L of water may do you more good, perhaps?

 

[Sgt Bilco]

Like Wapping I think you should carry water not extra fuel.

Are you sure 33 litres isn't enough

There is only one place I have ever been to when I had to take extra fuel and that was on my 1100 with it's 22 litre tank. (240 miles between available fuel). The GSA with it's monster 33 litre tank would have easily done that!!

If you think you need extra fuel carrying 0.8 litres is a bit of a waste of time and you would be better off with a 5 gallon can strapped on the back

 

[Dainese Brave]

If you fear / anticipate running out of fuel in the arrid wastes, 0.8L of water may do you more good, perhaps?

....I've thought of somewhere else I'd like to shove the bottle....

 

[Dainese Brave]

Like Wapping I think you should carry water not extra fuel.

Are you sure 33 litres isn't enough

There is only one place I have ever been to when I had to take extra fuel and that was on my 1100 with it's 22 litre tank. (240 miles between available fuel). The GSA with it's monster 33 litre tank would have easily done that!!

If you think you need extra fuel carrying 0.8 litres is a bit of a waste of time and you would be better off with a 5 gallon can strapped on the back

View attachment 152695

Fair comment....it was just a thought.

I used to carry a two litre container in my panniers, but found it got too hot in there, and also worried it might expand and cause a bigger problem than it was carried to prevent.

Also found a small jerry can was handy but bulky...so in the end stopped carrying anything.

I thought this might be an option...but oil it will be if I get one.

Thanks for all views expressed

 

[Melly Senior]

Fair comment....it was just a thought.

I used to carry a two litre container in my panniers, but found it got too hot in there, and also worried it might expand and cause a bigger problem than it was carried to prevent.

Also found a small jerry can was handy but bulky...so in the end stopped carrying anything.

I thought this might be an option...but oil it will be if I get one.

Thanks for all views expressed

I've got one and it fits a treat

 

[Wapping]

Fair comment....it was just a thought.

I used to carry a two litre container in my panniers, but found it got too hot in there, and also worried it might expand and cause a bigger problem than it was carried to prevent.

Also found a small jerry can was handy but bulky...so in the end stopped carrying anything.

I thought this might be an option...but oil it will be if I get one.

Thanks for all views expressed

Fuel is volatile and expands like buggery. My concern that the 0.8l bottle (not least it's way too small to warrant bothering) would spray in all directions when opened was real. Petrol spray is realy nasty stuff when it mixes with oxygen, something hot and probably your face, hands, clothing and anyone unfortunate enough to be standing next to you.

Now, what to do if you want to carry fuel additional fuel safely?

Get yourself one (or two) small - I think they are 5l - cans.

Get a light frame made at a local metal basher's shop. It needn't be anything huge, just enough to hold the can reasonably safely. Hang the can(s) on the frame(s) from the upper crash bars of your 1200GSA. I saw a proper off-road 800 with something very similar and it looked / worked fine. Cost? A few quid.

It will be reasonably safe, two giving you about 94 miles additional range, on top of the 33 litres in your tank. Oil in the 0.8l bottle and you are good for the Negev or Norwich.

===

When taking the 5l cans off, be sure to drag them in the dirt a little bit. This will earth them and get rid of any possible static charge that built up. Sparks and vapour when you pour the fuel will not be fun.