Ohlins Reliability

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As I'm in the market potentially for new shocks for the hack bike I have been exploring options and prices for replacements and doing a fair bit of research on this board. I am somewhat alarmed at the number of cases being reported of 'blown Ohlins'.

Whilst I can accept servicing and rebuilding over time, in many cases these are relatively new shocks.

Today I have had recommended to me the Ohlins over WP yet I've heard very little relating to problems with WP (with the notable exception of our own Desert Rat, C the C). Anyone got any thoughts or had info from Service centres they've taken their weeping shocks to?

Thanks in advance (trying to not throw £800 down the tubes on shite).
 
Judge,

My rear Ohlins has now done something over 24k since fitting just under a year ago, no problems whatsoever. It's the mutts nuts as far as I'm concerned. Now saving for the front one......
 
My front and rear Ohlins have done 11K on my bike, and a further 6K (i think) on the previous owners bike. No problems so far.
 
Ohlins or WP

The rear shock has been rebuilt and has now been re-installed.
All the work has been carried out by KAIS Performance Suspension Services of Atherton,Manchester.

They were recommended by Harris Performance,as the 'other ' UK Ohlins sales and service centre.They can be contacted on 01942 896366 and the business is family run by Andy White,who has had 30 years tuning Ohlins suspension for riders like David Jefferies and Chris Walker,so he knows his 'onions'.....

They've done a great job and fully rebuilt the rear shock,installed a heavier weight 160nM spring,more suitable for my 'ample build',revalved and revised the damping mechanism tailoring it for me,my riding style (wot style......???) and the type of bike.
They also had to rebuild the hydraulic preload damper unit,which had blown the seals.
Afterwards,they re-installed and set the bike up.
They did all the techie bits,measured the sag,added a bit of this,reduced that,explained what does what - by showing a numpty like me,what all the little shock components were and how they work,before showing me how to adjust the suspension and how a little bit of this, affects that.
So a couple of test runs to check and a bit more adjustment,the bike is 200% better than it was before(apparently I've been doing it all wrong.........DOH and many people do,so i'm not alone).

The result is a slightly stiffer set-up,with the bike turning quicker,but the bike tracks straight and true,with no running wide and no mid corner 'wallow or hingeing' or shock bottoming after ridges or jumps.
Tried a couple of my favourite routes in the Dales tonight and now the bike is ace.
The bike is soooooo much better and now faster,because the handling is superb.So I probably won't need a Y piece and chip,because corner speed is high enough.....thank you.
My advice is get your bike set up with decent 'suspenders' before doing the engine mod thing,unless you just want a loud bike.

Try KAIS for a great service - very friendly,helpful and willing to explain the basics to a 'common or garden' road rider like me,whilst plying me with tea.
The service isn't cheap,but is value for money - about the cost of a s/hand Y piece for a rebuild and set-up.................but controversially.......it's probably better value for money (unless you're going to a 3rd world country without Unleaded,of course)


www.kais-ohlins.co.uk


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Judge,
This was my story a couple of weeks back after Snowdonia.
As said my rear covered 30K + miles before needing a rebuild,now it's better than before with the heavier spring and revised damping.
My advice is to buy from a specialist over the general market,then they'll fit the right spring and revalve it for you before fitting.
The new spring on mine is 160nM(stock is 140nM i believe) and i'm 18 stone,so you'll probably need a 180 or 200nM rear spring and revised damping.
Ohlins or WP.............
Kais Performance are main agents for both,so I asked them the question - 'Which is best'.........??
They said the Ohlins are better made and more refined,with a greater range of ultimate suspension tuning available,backed by a factory owned by Yamaha,with an infinitely higher budget for R&D. Also Ohlins has a longer track record in racing suspension.Most of the top F1,Nascar,Rally,Indy,WSB and Moto GP teams use and specify Ohlins beacause it's viewed as the best.
WP,owned by KTM now, although a younger company have a great appetite to launch onto the racing stage,in bike and car racing and will be moving at a fast pace.
So the choice is yours...............
I'm perfectly happy with Ohlins and can recommend.
 
Hi Judge

I bought Ohlins front and rear and yes they definitely make a difference, I went through your dilema not knowing which to buy and eventually went for the Ohlins obviously, but I think I'm just a marketing mans dream! all the comments make sense but if I was asked now what would I do I would have to say for £800 the difference is'nt worth it in my opinion.

Cheers
 
G'day

I have the Ohlin$ now for 2 years/40.000 km with no problems
(front and aft)

I'm now in the process to gather info to upgrade the shocks,
The are perfect on and off-road, but they bottom when is going fast off-road.

Does anyone know the stock spring rate (frond and aft) ?
 
Andy,

as you know my rear Öhlins blew recently. It's undoubtedly due to a manufacturing fault as a) it'd not done many miles b) it'd been re-sprung & set up for my weight/riding style etc and c) I'd not been off-roading or putting it under undue stress. It's with Harris at the moment (who've been busy in the aftermath of the British GP, apparently, and have a bit of a backlog). Neither Lind nor I expect there to be any quibble over repair/replacement.

JB makes a good point about most people not setting up their shocks correctly. I'm pretty sure this is one of the reasons fitting Öhlins report such a revelation when they are fitted - they might find it less so if the stock shock was adjusted correctly. Another reason is that the Öhlins may be replacing shocks that are shot to bits, so even replacing with OE would be a marked improvement. The third reason is convincing yourself that your £800 was worth spending :D

The main advantage to fitting Öhlins, IMHO, is that they are a service item, so you only spend the big money once.

Incidentally, the list price for a OE Showa rear shock for an Adv is £440......

Mike:)
 
Stop Press! just had a 'phone call from Lind - my Öhlins is back from Harris and will be re-fitted during the bike's 30k service in a couple of weeks. As predicted, no quibble, repair and re-fitting foc....

Mike:)
 
Henry said:
G'day

I have the Ohlin$ now for 2 years/40.000 km with no problems
(front and aft)

I'm now in the process to gather info to upgrade the shocks,
The are perfect on and off-road, but they bottom when is going fast off-road.

Does anyone know the stock spring rate (frond and aft) ?

Look at the springs,Henry.
Rear is 140nM.
 
Ohlins

My front did 6,000 miles in 6 months and had to repaired under warranty, lost oil. The rear is now at 12,000 miles and feels as though it's going soft.

I think they are a bit cheap (not in price), instead of using Glacier bearings at each end thay have a bit of foam to stop the bearings rattleing.

Tony
 
Hi Judge,

Decided yet..I am in the same boat.

Let me know how you get on

Cheers

CBI:beerjug:

P.S Bit worried about spending loads of dosh before 2004 model comes out..any thoughts?
 
JohnnyBoxer said:
Look at the springs,Henry.
Rear is 140nM.

Thanx,

Can't read the rear without removing the shock (means removing the exhaust also)

Front reads 1XX6 10/52 L351
where "xx" can be 0, 8 or 9 (text damaged on spring)

Doesn't make sense to me,
L351 can't be the length (is not more than 20cm)
Rate must be somewhere between 50 and 80, cant distillate this range from the numbers

Guess I have to wait till the importer is back from holydays :(
 
CBI said:
Hi Judge,

Decided yet..I am in the same boat.

Let me know how you get on

Cheers

CBI:beerjug:

P.S Bit worried about spending loads of dosh before 2004 model comes out..any thoughts?
I think it'll be Ohlins but I also think I'll wait for sale season.

Last year Motorworks had a 10% sale and Harris were doing deals at the NEC show.
 
My first mBw shock lasted about 50k, and I replaced it with a second hand one (mileage unknown) and that's now done over 85k. I dare say ohlins are vastly superior, but I don't want to be stuck in the middle of no where with a knackered superior shock.
 
Vern said:
My first mBw shock lasted about 50k, and I replaced it with a second hand one (mileage unknown) and that's now done over 85k. I dare say ohlins are vastly superior, but I don't want to be stuck in the middle of no where with a knackered superior shock.

Yahbut,

let's not forget I only fitted Öhlins because my rear Showa failed at 14k.......

Mike:)
 
Mike O said:
Yahbut,

let's not forget I only fitted Öhlins because my rear Showa failed at 14k.......

Mike:)
Yahbut the replacement Ohlins failed at 6K and we do have something in common and that's what concerns me and hence the thread :(

But I think I need to takes this discussion further with you off line ;)
 
Mike O said:
Yahbut,

let's not forget I only fitted Öhlins because my rear Showa failed at 14k.......

Mike:)

Yep mine died at 8k :(
It seems a hell of a lot easier to get ohlins replaced or repaired,
than trying to get spc to replace the oem shock under warranty.

:banghead:
 
Vern said:
My first mBw shock lasted about 50k, and I replaced it with a second hand one (mileage unknown) and that's now done over 85k. I dare say ohlins are vastly superior, but I don't want to be stuck in the middle of no where with a knackered superior shock.
Yahbut you're a garden gnome who rides like a girl (well according to Grovsie anyway, I can't comment as I've never seen you ride :D), whereas I ride it like I stole it and when all said and done am more Sumo than Sumitomo
 


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