Operating the Nav whilst riding on a GS?

But it is positioned within 45 degrees of a rider's line of sight, no?
 
Spareparts said:
But it is positioned within 45 degrees of a rider's line of sight, no?
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My peripheral vision is about 80° does that mean we ok? I doubt that very much. I rather pull over than get slapped with 6 points and -£200, not to mention insurance premium increase, if you get that far with finding someone to insure you. Not worth the hassle. Pull over, do what you have to do and be on your way in no time at all.


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Wapping said:
Half of ninety, if I really had to have a wild guess.
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But it could be a 135° if you learn to turn your head, possibly more if you're disjointed type :D


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I think the law refers to "Handheld Devices". Does this apply to devices fixed to bike or car?

My car sat nav / radio /cd is a combined unit does this law mean you are not allowed to adjust the controls on the move?
Is a bike sat nav handheld or fixed? Im guessing the wheel is allowed as its a control on the bike but you could argue that the sat nav is also fixed?

Ian
 
Typical law written by people who don't ride motorcycles. They would prefer you looked down with your eyes off the road than have the GPS in front of you....morons.
 
My interpretation is that based on your head looking straight ahead = zero degrees. Therefore your Nav must be positioned so that you don't need to turn 45 degrees in either direction to view it. On basis that standard gs/gsa position is straight ahead then it complies with new law.
 
Is MCN and the Daily Mail written by the same people?

Where does this arbitrary 45 degrees come from, its not in any legislation I've seen.

The handheld device must be capable of receiving and transmitting data, which must rule out most sat navs
 
It's MNC...aka; More Crap than News.

the law doesn't cover SATNAVS (yet!)... its about hand held Mobile telephony devices.... not ALL devices,
So, you cannot reprogramme your phone if using it as a satnav, as its a phone, but you can use a dedicated satnav as far as I see it...
So its not £200 and 6 points for using a satnav, but it could be deemed as not being in full control of the vehicle, or dangerous driving/riding....
 
What about sextants? Can I be done for taking positions on that?

I have sextant in one hand, one eye on it, and one on the road (obviously :rolleyes: ) - one hand with my chronometer, and one hand recording the readings..............

Hang on! I think I've found a flaw................. :blast

Al:aidan
 
Blackal said:
What about sextants? Can I be done for taking positions on that?

I have sextant in one hand, one eye on it, and one on the road (obviously :rolleyes: ) - one hand with my chronometer, and one hand recording the readings..............

Hang on! I think I've found a flaw................. :blast

Al:aidan
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:jes:jes
 
The article doesn't say the use of a sat nav will result in a fine or points, it says 'meanwhile........' Then describes the points and fine for mobile phone use.
It also says the sav nav should be outside the 45º angle view of the rider. I would say this means the unit should be mounted somewhere that is not directly in front of the riders vision. Whilst I do look at it myself there are warnings you get on sat nav to not use it whilst in motion and I guess 'they' are trying to advocate the use of spoken directions via Bluetooth to the rider. When I bought my Nav V I was advised by my dealer to do just that as they had had some bikes in having had an accident due to riders looking down at their sat nav only to find the traffic stopped when they looked back up.
Makes it expensive if you have to buy Bluetooth for your helmet but not as bad as bike repair costs or injury.
 
Bubb said:
It's MNC...aka; More Crap than News.

the law doesn't cover SATNAVS (yet!)... its about hand held Mobile telephony devices.... not ALL devices,
So, you cannot reprogramme your phone if using it as a satnav, as its a phone, but you can use a dedicated satnav as far as I see it...
So its not £200 and 6 points for using a satnav, but it could be deemed as not being in full control of the vehicle, or dangerous driving/riding....
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That's not true. Just after the 1st march a newish driver lost his licence because he was setting a destination on his sat nav whilst driving.
 
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When I bought my Nav V I was advised by my dealer to do just that as they had had some bikes in having had an accident due to riders looking down at their sat nav only to find the traffic stopped when they looked back up.QUOTE]

But that's more to do with the rider's focus - my mate ran into the back of a stationary car in his Mini when he was looking a woman's bum in summer shorts! :blast
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WaterMonkey said:
That's not true. Just after the 1st march a newish driver lost his licence because he was setting a destination on his sat nav whilst driving.
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I imagine that was "driving without due care and attention" rather than anything specific to the Satnav

Al
 
fredaroony said:
They would prefer you looked down with your eyes off the road than have the GPS in front of you....morons.
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But then they can sell us new bikes with Head Up Displays then. Simples. :D

PS.
I have the Zumo mounted parallel to the bars (facing up) on my GS. Similar positioning of a roadbook.
Had a really stupid small accident (my fault) because I was distracted looking down at it while entering in a roundabout last year... so, yes, it doesn't make much sense.
 
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