Panniers for the X Challenge

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Hi
Looking for a set of panniers for the X Challenge. Just some cheap throw over ones if possible. Any recommendations beside the wolfman or dirtbagz ones?
Cheers
 
wolfman, ortlieb, steel pony etc will require a frame: hepco and becker make one.

Dirtbagz are a bit smaller and come with a rack, probably works out cheaper than those above unless you already have a frame.

I use a 40L waterproof duffle on the back which manages to cope with most things however it does carry the weight higher. Fortunately I'm used to packing light. No need for a pannier frame though. I have a couple of loops of cord tied round the front of the subframe then strap to these and my TT rear rack. A Kreiga US10 with a tank base works well up front.

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Should my duffle ever need replacing I would be very tempted by the Giant Loop bags. The coyote probably works out pretty similar to my duffle in size, the great basin if you are considering RTW or like to carry the kitchen sink.
 
Hi rossi

i'd be interested in how you manage to pack so light, i've not done much travelling on the xc yet but on my old rt i always seemed to be carrying a lot:nenau i seem to carry a lot of odds and ends just for the bike itself even on day trips and local outings and easily fill a us10 tail pack with tools and spares

cheers
 
Hi rossi

i'd be interested in how you manage to pack so light, i've not done much travelling on the xc yet but on my old rt i always seemed to be carrying a lot:nenau i seem to carry a lot of odds and ends just for the bike itself even on day trips and local outings and easily fill a us10 tail pack with tools and spares

cheers

Comes with practice I suppose. I used to work in outdoor education and spent a year in Hong Kong leading expeditions over the mountains every week. This means I have lightweight kit and am used to packing exactly what I need. The only items I packed for the HUMM (the photo above) and didn't use were my MX gloves and a pair of lightweight hiking waterproof overtrousers.

The duffle contains
clothes:3 synthetic t shirts,3 pairs of socks, boxers, 2 trekking trousers
lightweight sleeping bag and thermarest
msr stove (petrol), mess tins packed with food
wash kit and travel towel
para cord (washing line, tow rope etc)
lightweight waterproofs

On the outside of the duffle is a lightweight 2 man tent.

In the US10 is a windproof fleece (if I am not wearing it under my mesh riding jacket), maps, compass, camera, passport and bike docs (required for spain :augie), sunglasses, batteries, lunch, torch. My water bladder goes in the mesh pocket of the US10, as do a couple of bungies which were useful for attaching loaves of bread etc to the rack.

Other than having a larger sleeping bag and thermarest, Nick pretty much matched what I was carrying for the humm. The 2 main exceptions being a spare pair of shoes (I rode in my Altbergs so didn't take spare footwear like Nick who rode in off road boots) and tools. Nick carried his tools in a bumbag and wore a kreiga camelback; my tools are all stored around the bike. Nick also wore goretex riding kit which he found very hot. My mesh clothing kept me much cooler and I had the option of the waterproofs over the top for when it got cooler / wet. Not much good if you leave them in your tent though. :blast

In the picture you can see a drinks bottle and mess tin on the front of the bashplate. The bottle contains spare clutch, brake and gear levers, tube patches, CO2 bottles, cable ties and a pot of nuts/bolts The mess tin contains a front tube.

Tubes of vulcanising glue and JBweld are stuck under the seat with velcro as they burst if left with tools rattling against them. 2 tyre levers are attached to a subframe top rail with cable ties and a 26mm spanner (cut down to form a 3rd lever) is velcroed to the other rail. Tied to the bottom of the seat is a nylon pouch with the rest of my tools in: a motion pro tool kit (expensive but very good), a couple of spanners, a pair of pliers, more cable ties and latex gloves.

There are a number of advantages of carrying the tools on the bike: you always have them with you, less effort than carrying them yourself and you don't land on them when you fall off. The only disadvantage is when you have the bike loaded and have to remove your bags before you lift the seat.

Nick found a useful place to keep a spare tube for the trip. He attached the alloy plate of his TT rack with longer bolts and spacers, leaving room underneath to store a tube, neat.
 
Thanks rossi some good food for thought there. Am amazed at what you can get in your us10, I don't think I could get any of my fleeces in there let alone the rest of the stuff you list, and I'd only be able to get an empty bladder on the mesh part of mine, how they reckon its got a 10 litre capacity is beyond me

Cheers
 
Giant loop for me....

currently sat waiting for the ferry on the way back from the HUMM.

I bought a giant loop coyote bag from adventure spec. It's not the biggest, but in it i can fit my exped 9dlx, sleeping bag, 2 man tent, travel towel, slime pump, spare tube, and washbag. I chucked a few spare clothes, similar in quantity to ian (rossi) in a r11 which i put on the rear tt rack. Other docs etc where carried in a r15, including a 3l water bladder. Tools where carried in a us 5. I.ll post pictures when i'm home and have access to a pc.

The only thing i didn't carry was cooking facilities.
Nathan
 
On a recent trip

My xchallenge here pictured with Andy Strapz soft (canvas)panniers, I have 20 litre water containers with the tops cut off them inside the panniers to provide some shape. They are sitting on Hepco Becker pannier frames
So there is about 23 litres each side and the carabee zambeze duffel bag sitting on the pack rack is 50 litres

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The Hepco Becker racks allow a bit of space on the side where the muffler isnt so I fitted a toolbox tube in there

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I bought a giant loop coyote bag from adventure spec.


I collected a Gaint Loop Coyote yesterday, though not had time to fit the thing yet, but I'm away to Portugal on Sunday, so need to master it this evening.....:eek

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I'm looking to improve on my light pack, and lower the centre of gravity slightly.
I also have the BMW rear rack, which I have made a large load plate with slots which should take my tools/tubes in a Kriega 10ltr pack bag.
Hopefully a small stove and kettle can be carried with the slightly larger capacity......
I'll post some pics later....

Timpo.
 
Timpo
I await your photos. Currently kitting out a X Challenge for a 6 month trip across to Siberia. Haven't decided on panniers yet. Steel Pony have a 5 month waiting list so I need to decide soon.
Did you look at many other before going for the giant loop?
 
I collected a Gaint Loop Coyote yesterday, though not had time to fit the thing yet, but I'm away to Portugal on Sunday, so need to master it this evening.....:eek


Timpo.

I clipped the metal hooks (underneath the bag) onto the leading edge of my TT small luggage rack, and ran the straps down to the foot peg hard part on the rear brake side, and made up a loop to go around the frame just above the gear lever on the other side.

I actually made up some loops from an old strap, which i sleeved in old mtb inner tube and connected these to the bike, as i was worried about them chaffing through with vibration, or if they slipped and got cooked on the exhuast (at least if they broke loose i could run the main strap from the bag onto the bike), but after 2000 miles to the pyrenees and back there were no signs of damage.

These loop bags are top bits of kit :thumb
 
Hi
Looking for a set of panniers for the X Challenge. Just some cheap throw over ones if possible. Any recommendations beside the wolfman or dirtbagz ones?
Cheers

I used a pair of ex army throw over canvas panniers for my trip to the HUMM this year. Mounted on an inverted "U" bracket of mild steel that was bolted to a TT small luggage rack.
 

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Hi,

I'm considering the following setup for luggage:

XTank.
Hepco and Becker Pannier frames.
Gobi panniers or Ortlieb throwovers.
TT toolbag.

I'm concerned that the rear subframe is incapable of supporting all this.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Ian.
 
Since the rear subframe can support a pillion I'm sure it will cope with your luggage.

The subframe only really becomes an issue if you start loading weight on the rear rack (or anything that attaches to the rearmost of the 2 sets of bolt holes on the subframe). Keep the weight above or forward of the corner of the triangle, formed by the diagonal tube and top tube of the subframe and you should be fine. I would hope that the H&B racks attach to the front mounting hole which is at the corner of the triangle.
 
I collected a Gaint Loop Coyote yesterday, though not had time to fit the thing yet, but I'm away to Portugal on Sunday, so need to master it this evening.....:eek
Timpo I saw you RR from Portugal on advrider.
Could You please post pictures of attachment points?
I noticed that you do not have passenger peg (same) - is there any problem to mount GL Coyote on pipe (right) side ?

Thanks in advance
Rgds Lucas
 
Timpo I saw you RR from Portugal on advrider.
Could You please post pictures of attachment points?
I noticed that you do not have passenger peg (same) - is there any problem to mount GL Coyote on pipe (right) side ?

Thanks in advance
Rgds Lucas

Lucas,

i mounted mine off the right side footpeg (i have the peg protectors fitted, which act as convinient hooks to put the straps over), on the exhuast side i mounted it by strapping it around the frame, just above the clutch cover.

I think i have some photo's if it will help??

Nathan
 
Thanks Nathan

I was just wondering about attachment points and possible collisions with exhaust pipe. I have checked and test my friends GL Great Basin bag but finally I decided to go with smaller GL Coyote (and additional duffel strapped to it). I have no passanger pegs but I thinkt that I will manage that ;)

Regards
Lucas
 
Thanks Nathan

I was just wondering about attachment points and possible collisions with exhaust pipe. I have checked and test my friends GL Great Basin bag but finally I decided to go with smaller GL Coyote (and additional duffel strapped to it). I have no passanger pegs but I thinkt that I will manage that ;)

Regards
Lucas

The bag actually comes with a big jubilee clip that goes around the exhuast can to space the plastics, and bag off.

I was also concerned about the exhuast pipe, so i used a second piece of strap to loop around the frame, the idea being this would be sacrificial if the strap hit the pipe.

I'll dig some photo's out if i can find them tommorrow.

nathan
 


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