Please vote for Scottish Emergency Rider Volunteer Service

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.... So if you are in hospital awaiting blood for a life saving transfusion I take it you'd be happy to receive blood delivered by a minicab driver, but not by a volunteer on a motorcycle?...

I think the question would be why the hospital doesn't have the blood in the first place, it's a very rare set of circumstances that a hospital will run out of it stock of blood/plasma
 
I wouldn't be giving a flying continental fuck who was delivering it :nenau

Please accept my apologies for being unutterably naive as well as off topic but can you please specify the difference between a "flying continental fuck" (FCF) and a simple, and presumably British, "flying fuck"?

Is a FCF like a continental breakfast, short simple and ultimately far less rewarding except for the good coffee at the end?
 
I can see both sides to this, it attracting the wrong people and these should be weeded out. I can see from the website it says they dont accept people to apply for specific volunteer jobs, which will go some way to helping out with that issue.

Id rather there was a volunteer service with someone volunteering there own personal time to do such a thing - I can't really see a downside to helping a volunteering charity, so long as they are careful with who they choose to carry out what specific tasks.
 
I can see both sides to this, it attracting the wrong people and these should be weeded out. I can see from the website it says they dont accept people to apply for specific volunteer jobs, which will go some way to helping out with that issue.

Id rather there was a volunteer service with someone volunteering there own personal time to do such a thing - I can't really see a downside to helping a volunteering charity, so long as they are careful with who they choose to carry out what specific tasks.

There is no place on this forum for such sensibleness:rob
 
Aye! indeed this is the Scottish region we have certain standards tae maintain :jager


Apologies, i`ll just generalise then.

Id rather there was a volunteer service to help out, when the nearest "qualified" emergency service staff were having a tea break. :beerjug:
 
...our very own AdamA, moderator of this parish, paramedic squaddie, demon-fast rider and generally all-round good bloke is/was involved in something similar.

yebbut, this ambulance driving wannabee wouldnt bother offering him help in any of the emergeny roles I undertake. :thumb
 
Seem to be getting a lot of feathers ruffled here!!

Yes...I have seen Prices bike also...despite what it says on it he is an observer with the IAM...not an instructor...no such thing. Still a wannabee though.

I also am an observer with the same group and am happy to pass on some of my (English) training to those who are keen to improve their motorcycling...apart from the Ninewells bit!! Don't need to pretend to be something I'm not to do it though.

Another geezer I know has a white RT, and thinks his membership of something called the peddlybike escort group..or something..means he can put blue lights in his topbbox and administer what we used to call 'moving cautions'

All these fellows may be frightfully well intentioned. What ARE their intentions? What can they do in an 'emergency'??? Fack all. They can't exceed the speed limit, push through traffic, anything in fact, that going on the bus couldn't achieve. So why bother, might as well join the specials if you want to help society..at least they do something useful.

I re-state my original point, cock or not; I cannot think of a single circumstance where I would rely on their services. I would rather rely on a professional...it takes more than a white bike and a yellow coat. You might get AdamA...you might get one of the wannabees.

I don't really understand what point is being made about my or anybody else's qualifications...I haven't questioned anybody's qualifications and it's irrelevant really..even if I were to join such an organisation, I wouldn't be able to do anything I couldn't do by going in a cab...apart from blagging a bike and a yellow coat it would seem.

As for for the argument about common-sense I don't recall questioning the common-sense of anyone---It's motives I am questioning. I think you make the point far better than I ever could. If you don't know something is it not common-sense to ask rather than blundering on?
No further questions.
Once again I am inclined to agree with Glenshee,There are a few wannabee's that
join these groups,but i'm sure Gerald will agree not all police drivers are the best.(unless they were trained in Northumberland).:clap
 
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I'd like to point out its great that people volunteer to provide a service free of charge to the NHS and do these delivery's of blood, plasma etc but at no point is one of these volunteer groups doing emergency runs as it states on their website!
If its an emergency it is done under blues and twos, there are people who are trained and get paid to do this. All that these blood groups are doing is for example, delivering blood to a hospital to restock its supplies.

Yes its a great service and they are saving the NHS money but they are giving out the wrong idea of who they are. At no point will you be in a hospital and get told by a nurse "sorry we cant give you a transfusion as the volunteer biker isn't here yet"
 
I wonder why the East Anglia Thread on Bloodbikes didn't attract some of the comments this thread seems to have generated :rolleyes:

http://ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252613

As for who can and can't do what regarding blue light use, then it would probably be worth reading the following summarisation of the use of Blue lights put together by folk that actually know what they are talking about.

http://www.ukemergency.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&Itemid=61

I had a look back at the Scottish Sevr site and I must have missed the bit about using blue lights, or maybe it was the use of the word "emergency" that previous poster was drawing attention to. Having checked through other Blood Bikes sites it does appear that they can be called upon to do Emergency runs, though this is certainly not the norm. There is also no legal requirement for people driving emergency vehicles to be trained beyond a normal driving licence.

On the subject of Blue Lights I think the following video is worth watching. Helps make it clear to everybody what to do when you encounter an Emergency vehicle with Lights and /or Sirens going.

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However after reading the info about blue light use I do think the bike in the Scottish Sevr gallery photos has illegal livery. It appears to have blue reflective signage to the front and sides. Police Vehicles are the only vehicles allowed to have constant blue lights at the front. (In the lighting regulations, lights, reflectors and reflective material are all classed as lights on vehicles) I can appreciate that things like that can create a misleading image of the Blood Bike service. I haven't trawled through photos of other Blood Bikes but the few that I have come across seem to have more of a mixture of green, yellow, amber, white. Which is inline with Ambulance type emergency vehicles.

I spoke to an IAM rider this morning at the First Aid course I organised, and it turned out he is also one of the Scottish Emergency Volunteer Rider Service volunteers and have asked him to pass on the info about the blue signage.

Many thanks to anybody that went to the trouble of voting for the Scottish Emergency Volunteer Rider Service on the RBS CommunityForce project. The Scottish Emergency Volunteer Rider Service have said to me that they really appreciate everyones support :thumb2
 
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