Puncture with Ulraseal?

[Stevieboy]

Hi all.
My rear, almost new tyre has a dirty great nail in it. When the tyre was fitted I had Ultraseal put in.
My question is, do I need to have the tyre repaired, or can I pull out the nail, spin up the tyre and let the Ultraseal do the rest.
I only ask this as I'm sure I have read posts where people have had new tyres fitted and realised they have had several punctures during the tyres life.
Thanks
Steve

 

[Decster]

Hi all.
My rear, almost new tyre has a dirty great nail in it. When the tyre was fitted I had Ultraseal put in.
My question is, do I need to have the tyre repaired, or can I pull out the nail, spin up the tyre and let the Ultraseal do the rest.
I only ask this as I'm sure I have read posts where people have had new tyres fitted and realised they have had several punctures during the tyres life.
Thanks
Steve

Have you read the info leaflet that comes with Ultraseal?

I got a nail in a brand new tyre, 60miles i think. Plugged it, Ultralseal it and got 11,000+ miles out of it. a tourance.

 

[Stevieboy]

Hi Decster.
I haven't got the leaflet. It was put in by the tyre fitter from his big barrel of the stuff.
Excuse my ignorance but I'm assuming that you plug the hole from the outside so you don't have to remove the tyre?
First puncture on the bike you see. I'm a bit green
Cheers
Steve

 

[Decster]

Excuse my ignorance but I'm assuming that you plug the hole from the outside so you don't have to remove the tyre?

bingo

I am not sure of the exact details on Ultraseal, but i would plug it for peace of mind. Plenty on here have plugged tyres and continued riding for 1000's of miles. Others throw the tyre away as soon as they get a nail. I never understood that.

Dont worry about being green that'll pass soon enough

 

[Kritou]

Mark the puncture site with a chalkmark on the sidewall - pull out nail - rotate tyre 'til mark is at the bottom and bash the sidewall with something like a rubber mallet. This ensures that the Ultraseal congregates around the wound

If by any chance this does not do the job and there is still a leak, take the wheel to a tyre fitter and ask them to plug it from the inside with a large mushroom plug. Take lots of paper towels and offer to wipe out and wash the US in the tyre yourself

 

[Jon]

Link to Fixing a puncture with the BMW repair kit on this site

From this;

To this;

 

[RiceBurner]

The whole point of Ultraseal (and SLIME) is that you DON'T need to plug it - the Ultraseal does that from the inside-outwards.

Often a plug in a SLIMEd or Ultrasealed tyre won't take properly because the slime/seal gunk interferes with the glue - it prevents it from bonding to the rubber correctly.


Do what Kritou says - you need to get the USeal around the hole, then spin the wheel to get the USeal into the hole.


Both those system work the same - they have small fibres within the liquid that "congeal" in the hole, almost exactly the same way platelets in blood seal a wound on your arm (but not your leg - that's different. )

 

[JoeC]

Ultraseal etc does not work on screws as the screw hole has a jagged edge which the US cannot seal. In these circumstances, if tyre is still up, leave the screw in and get it professionally looked at. They can wash out the US and leave tyre to dry before plugging hole.
If not up then you can do try a temposrary repair with the BM kit once the US has escaped out of the hole that the screw has left. However, this may not work but worth a go.

 

[Voyager]

According to the Ultraseal bumph, its supposed to seal a hole of up to 6mm diameter.

Its not intended to provide a permanent repair though.

Bob.

 

[motobiker]

Insanity!!!

NO WAY ON EARTH would i trust anything to plug a hole apart from a professional 'fix' - this stuff - Ultra seal - might be ok when you're in the middle of nowhere.. as a 'get me home' but as a permanent fix? no way.

I'm constantly amazed by some of the posts on here...

 

[STUBBS]

Insanity!!!

NO WAY ON EARTH would i trust anything to plug a hole apart from a professional 'fix' - this stuff - Ultra seal - might be ok when you're in the middle of nowhere.. as a 'get me home' but as a permanent fix? no way.

I'm constantly amazed by some of the posts on here...

99% of the time you dont know youve had a puncture with ultraseal its only when you inspect your tyres youll see the "plug" thats what is designed for

 

[motobiker]

99% of the time you dont know youve had a puncture with ultraseal its only when you inspect your tyres youll see the "plug" thats what is designed for

Isn't that assuming that whatever punctured the tyre - conveniently then removed itself from the hole... or does ultraseal (as if by magic) push whatever it was - out and then form a seal?

My habit has always been to thoroughly check my tyres fore and aft every week.. removing any stones - bits of gravel etc. and check for damage in the process.

I asked my 'tyre man' about these magic potions and his advice... only if you're going abroad.. otherwise. no. I would rather rely on his expertise than the rather contradictory comments on here.

 

[ianboydsnr]

Isn't that assuming that whatever punctured the tyre - conveniently then removed itself from the hole... or does ultraseal (as if by magic) push whatever it was - out and then form a seal?

My habit has always been to thoroughly check my tyres fore and aft every week.. removing any stones - bits of gravel etc. and check for damage in the process.

I asked my 'tyre man' about these magic potions and his advice... only if you're going abroad.. otherwise. no. I would rather rely on his expertise than the rather contradictory comments on here.

You would rather take the opinion of someone who failed at flipping burgers at macdonalds.

 

[Garryc]

..US will either plug the whole or at the very least decrease the delation rate enough to allow u to get home....

....I stop using US in favor of Stop N Go plugs - which are idiot proof.

 

[Stevieboy]

Well guys.
I think to err on the side of caution, I'll take it in this week and get it properly repaired. Hopefully I can find someone who doesn't mind repairing a tyre with US in.
Thanks all
Steve

 

[HonaGS.]

almost exactly the same way platelets in blood seal a wound on your arm (but not your leg - that's different. )

Eh? What? Why? How?
Too many beers and now deeply curious.

 

[motobiker]

You would rather take the opinion of someone who failed at flipping burgers at macdonalds.

Absolutely... I trust this man with my life when he fits tyres for me... so why should I ignore his advice at other times.

Are you seriously suggesting I should follow the contradictory advice in this thread... one saying 'yes' the other saying 'no'.. if there was a bit of consistency in the replies then I might take em seriously.

But when you have one person saying use ultraseal and it doesn't need plugging and another saying - Its not intended to provide a permanent repair though.

whose right? it's all toss !!

Thinking back... Steptoe didn't have ultraseal in his tyre when he got the major puncture in morocco.

I wonder why?

 

[STUBBS]

Isn't that assuming that whatever punctured the tyre - conveniently then removed itself from the hole... or does ultraseal (as if by magic) push whatever it was - out and then form a seal?

My habit has always been to thoroughly check my tyres fore and aft every week.. removing any stones - bits of gravel etc. and check for damage in the process.

I asked my 'tyre man' about these magic potions and his advice... only if you're going abroad.. otherwise. no. I would rather rely on his expertise than the rather contradictory comments on here.

ive asked various tyre men some swear by it others dont
i use it as an added protection im in the habbit of checking my tyres weekly as well as well as after any of road riding

 

[Voyager]

I use it as an added protection im in the habbit of checking my tyres weekly as well as well as after any of road riding

+1

If you've ever had a bike tyre deflate suddenly at speed (I have, fortunately it was the rear) you'll want all the help you can get.

I suffered a few punctures back in the '60s when bikes were less than half the weight of today's Beemers. I just got away with it then, but I doubt I could control my 1150GSA if I got a sudden flat.

I have Ultraseal in all my bikes.

Bob.

 

[Stevieboy]

Right then. For anyone who's interested here's the outcome.
After speaking to a recommended tyre fitter about a puncture repair, I was asked why I needed a repair when I had Ultraseal in the tyre.
I told him that I would feel better if the puncture was fixed properly.
I was assured that Ultraseal would be good enough to make a safe, permanent repair.
All I had to do was pull out the nail and spin the back wheel up while the bike was on it's centre stand. This would be sufficient to fill the hole.
So into my garage I went, armed with ignition key and a pair of pliers. I started her up, pulled out the nail and snicked her into 1st gear.
Ultraseal pissed all over the floor and the tyre went down.
Anyway, £20 later, tyre repaired and I'm back on the road again.
Maybe I'm a bit of a sucker, but I had Ultraseal fitted again. For the sake of £12 it might just get me out of the shit one day!
Steve