quest 1 and quest 2 route sharing?

[new gser]

Does anybody know if a file created in Navigator nt (v8 supplied with Quest2) can be opened in a non NT environment?

I have a quest 2, my friend a quest1 and we are having difficulty sharing files?

Any help appreciated

 

[Bumpkin]

Does anybody know if a file created in Navigator nt (v8 supplied with Quest2) can be opened in a non NT environment?

I have a quest 2, my friend a quest1 and we are having difficulty sharing files?

Any help appreciated

More clarity than your post on the VFR forum. As I said there; I don't see why not though recalculation may be necessary. Having opened it you need to right click the route in the left pane in Mapsource and select recalculate.

If you email me a route (chas dot wilder at clock dot co dot uk) and I'll see if I can open in regular CN v8 Mapsource and upload to my Quest1.

Edit
Just noticed that you said 'file' rather than 'route', what is it you're trying to share?

 

[DodgyGeeSer]

If you're having problems, try saving the file as a GPX file. This is an XML text based representation of your data, and the format should be common to all versions of Mapsource.

Otherwise, make sure you're both using the same version of MapSource. If one of you is using a particularly old version, Garmin may have tweaked the GDB format between revs.

If these fail, post your route file to this thread.

 

[HMR]

You can create a route in any map version and then upload it to any GPS.

If the route is created in MapSource using exacly the same map version as is installed in the GPS most Garmins will use the route as it is without recalculating it.

If the map versions doesn't fit the GPS will treat the route as if it where an off-road route (or direct route) and ask the user if he wants to use it as an off-road route or if he want it recalculated to create a "follow roads" route.

Some models, i e the 60CX, will treat it as an off-road route no matter what.

Still, the general advice is to recalculate (in MapSource) all routes you have received from someone else before you upload them to your GPS.

 

[Bumpkin]

You can create a route in any map version and then upload it to any GPS.

If the route is created in MapSource using exacly the same map version as is installed in the GPS most Garmins will use the route as it is without recalculating it.

Wasn't sure if the difference between CN v8 and CN v8 NT would be a problem as AFAIK the mapping data is the same. However, the OP (or someone posing as him) sent me some Quest2 routes last night. They wouldn't work at all on my Quest without recalculation in Mapsource, gave a 'Wrong maps' error message. A recalc in Mapsource with CN v8 and they worked OK though. Opening the GDB file also gave an error message that mentioned that all data might not be there due to the fact that I didn't have CN v8 NT. Looked like all routes of his tour were there along with about 180 route way-points. Maybe the error message was re. the way-points as I know the Quest2 has proximity alerts so I assume the way-points work somewhat differently, maybe they have a field that the Quest and CN v8 can't cope with.

 

[chasr]

The differences between CN8 & CN8NT are well documented (try the Garmin website) but, in terms of road mapping, the 2 products are identical. However, Garmin GPS units will treat the 2 mapping products as different versions and any swopped routes will require re-calculation in the same way as a CN7 route being loaded onto a CN8 equipped unit.

The routes don't have to be re-calculated in Mapsource; they can be be recalculated on the GPSs.

 

[HMR]

Opening the GDB file also gave an error message that mentioned that all data might not be there due to the fact that I didn't have CN v8 NT.

Maybe the GDB file you opened had map segments selected? Maybe that initiated the warning?

One should avoid having selected maps while saving GDB-files since this is known to create problems under special circumstances. Example: I had a very old route file with V4 map segments activated. Since I had (to save disk) long ago deleted the V4 map (IMG) files without doing a proper uninstall MapSource crashed. I had to reinstall 1 GB maps before I could read the routes.

 

[Bumpkin]

Maybe the GDB file you opened had map segments selected? Maybe that initiated the warning?

One should avoid having selected maps while saving GDB-files since this is known to create problems under special circumstances. Example: I had a very old route file with V4 map segments activated. Since I had (to save disk) long ago deleted the V4 map (IMG) files without doing a proper uninstall MapSource crashed. I had to reinstall 1 GB maps before I could read the routes.

That's possible I suppose, the sender didn't specify. However, the GDB was bigger that I expected at just over 1MB but I would have expected bigger had only a single map tile been included. There were something like 22 long routes and 180 waypoints.

 

[Bumpkin]

The routes don't have to be re-calculated in Mapsource; they can be be recalculated on the GPSs.

Whilst that's true it's far easier to see the route and make adjustments in Mapsource.

 

[HMR]

However, the GDB was bigger that I expected at just over 1MB but I would have expected bigger had only a single map tile been included. There were something like 22 long routes and 180 waypoints.

1 MB is normal for 22 long routes and 180 waypoints.