Remus Can vs. OE can?

[BTBR]

Because of a number of reasons I decided to fit the Remus Ti can to accompany the Remus Y-piece that has been fitted for the last six months, but one month on and I am not sure about the can?

Don’t get me wrong it’s a great looking can and it makes the bike sound so much better but that’s the problem?

No performance gains that I can tell, but I knew that before hand, it was fitted just to make it sound sweeter, plus if (when?) I drop the bike off-road the OE can would be spared!

But on a run of over 100 miles or 50 miles at motorway speed, its gives really bad earache. Now it would be easy fix if I could wear earplugs for a long period of time but I tend to suffer from a pressure problem. If I wear earplugs for a long period of time, any more than an hour or so, it effectively stops my left inner ear from equalising the pressure with the outside world, thus the inner ear swells and is really painful.

Then there are the concerns of the pannier melting, Remus recommend that you fit the deflector, but if the road legal insert is fitted then you can fit it coz of the little screw that holds the insert in place fouls the deflector?

I have also tried it with the road legal insert and whist it takes the ‘hit’ of the exhaust note and makes it a bit more bearable, it just makes it sound rather ‘tinny’ and I still have to wear earplugs on a run. Riding to work or shortish trips does not present any problems and I love the sound, as it sounds like a real bike should.

But after 2564 miles I have removed it and refitted the OE can, so that I can evaluate it further and then decide if I shall sell the can or not?

My first thoughts are to sell it and then maybe look at getting another type/make/design one, not sure, we will see what the next few hundred miles will bring?

BTBR

 

[_pi_]

personal choice i reckon...

at any rate - if you looking to sell that can pls pm me.

 

[CoolCarbon]

BTBR,

I hear what you're saying about Ear Plugs, but you really should re-consider wearing them, all the time.....

The problem you mention about equalisation is easily sorted if you get some filtered Custom made plugs........

They have a Very Small hole that allows the passage of air to even out the pressure between the outside and ear canal..thus getting rid of the pain issue you suffer from.......oh, and it will also help in reducing damage to your hearing...

As for the end Can, definitely personal choice, I wouldn't go back to the Original under any circumstances....

CC

 

[The Phantom Pieman]

Were can you get a Remus "Deflector , for use with panniers, from?

 

[bakerlonglegs]

Similar story but not given up yet!

Yup, 'tis a personal thing. I've fitted a remus ti with the Y piece - agree that it's a nicer noise with the baffle out. I also reckon it looks nicer than the great big OE chrome barrel, seems to weigh less too. Pannier melting prevented with BWM sticked-backed foil.
I've made do with cheap-o earplugs up to now, pound-a-pair foam jobs, but the remus has pushed me into looking out for custom fit ones sometime soon. Unless the fit of the foam ear plugs is perfect (not always the case, especially after a couple of long rides) I notice a low, nasty buzzing inside the lid which is really distracting. If custom 'plugs don't improve it I might think about trying the OE can back again but it will be with reluctance
Andy

 

[littleredrooster]

OE Can

Funny you should post this, BTBR, 'cos I re-fitted the OE can 10 days ago for a trip to Ireland: wanted a bit of peace and quiet on the trip.

I was astonished to find that it wasn't any slower; in fact, I'll swear blind that it now has more mid-range than with the Remus; seems to lose a bit right at the top of the rev-range, however (which I rarely use).

FYI - Y-piece + Techlusion R259 also fitted, otherwise standard.

And yes, before anyone else points it out, it suggests that the Techlusion could be better set-up for the Remus!

 

[BTBR]

Were can you get a Remus "Deflector , for use with panniers, from?

Any Remus outlet, I understand.

There have been some posts about these before and there is even some pictures somewhere. Its expensive for what it is mind.

BTBR

 

[BTBR]

Re: OE Can

Funny you should post this, BTBR, 'cos I re-fitted the OE can 10 days ago for a trip to Ireland: wanted a bit of peace and quiet on the trip.

I was astonished to find that it wasn't any slower; in fact, I'll swear blind that it now has more mid-range than with the Remus; seems to lose a bit right at the top of the rev-range, however (which I rarely use).

Thats exactly my reason for refitting it, I'm off to Scotland in three weeks time for a five day tour and I'm sure that my ears would have exploded if I had kept the Remus on.

Regarding performance, I have heard others say that they are convinced that the OE can gives better midrange pull than the Remus, maybe something to do with the back pressure?

BTBR

 

[Ming]

I blew a hole in a pannier last year with a remus can fitted .

but they only do it with the insert taken out .

with the road legal part of the baffle fitted there is no problem at all.

IMO

 

[Mzokk]

Wear ear plugs always. The wind noise will make you go deaf never mind the pipe once your hearing is gone from noise induced hearing loss its gone. It tends to be lost at the most useful freqency to at 1-4khz ie speech!

 

[Wreford Miles]

Regarding performance, I have heard others say that they are convinced that the OE can gives better midrange pull than the Remus, maybe something to do with the back pressure?


I put my standard can back on for the MOT and found the mid range better so I sold the Ti Remus.

As for the sound the standrad and Y adds just enough to keep me happy and I'm geetiong pretty accurate at back fires... great for getting back at those who are awkward to bikes filtering

 

[(RIP) Kaister]

My 'race remus' couldn't be heard over about 50mph even without earplugs.

Have you tried modifying the baffle ?

Cut it shorter in stages till its about right sound level.

Then get a decent Arai if you haven't already

then some decent earplugs.

......or ride faster so the sound doesn't keep up. ?

 

[Big Den]

I am another who loves the noise of a Remus but went back to the OE as it was only a matter of time before I forgot to check the heat reflective material was in place and burnt through a pannier.
I also suffered with increased vibration, always wear earplugs (1st time in 15 bikes) noise never bothered me.
I do not think they fit that well anyway.

oh an anyone wants a Remus carbon genesis bit tatty give me a pm.

 

[BTBR]

I might see if I can get me hands on a stock can and see wots inside?

Am I right in thinking that someone on here has recently played around with one?

As much as we all moan about BMW and some of thier ideas, the shape of the std can is very good really. It has the flat on the one side to allow it to get closer to the wheel, thus giving more clearance for the pannier.
It is round in section, so less area to heat the pannier............now I wonder if they thought about that or it if it just happened that way.......silly question really?

BTBR

 

[Steve]

I might see if I can get me hands on a stock can and see wots inside?

Am I right in thinking that someone on here has recently played around with one?

Geoff (mr tickle) once modded his. I believe he removed the end cap, drilled a few holes, and then put the cap back. I think it made a fair difference noise-wise, but I think he then filled the holes again.

Check here:

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9859&highlight=exhaust

 

[littleredrooster]

Just to clear up some of the points mentioned:

1. I always wear me custom-moulded ear-plugs.

2. I've done hundreds, probably thousands of miles at high-(ish) speed with a Remus (no baffle) + panniers with no melting problems.

So no bias either way, really. I DO like the fruity tone of the Remus when the situation is right, however and may refit the thing for a better 'back-to-back' test.

I may also get off me arse and get the Techlusion properly set-up on a dyno, as well!!

 

[BTBR]

Geoff (mr tickle) once modded his. I believe he removed the end cap, drilled a few holes, and then put the cap back. I think it made a fair difference noise-wise, but I think he then filled the holes again.

Check here:

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9859&highlight=exhaust

Thanks for that Steve, its interesting to note that he has now filled the holes back up again?

Has anyone cut one open to see how the internals work?

BTBR

 

[BTBR]

Conclusion.......

I have just road tested the GS on the same piece of dual carriageway, two runs each way.

Without a shadow of doubt with the OE can fitted it has more pull than the Remus can does in the midrange section. This was tried in three different gears and at varying roll on speeds.

Its difficult to say about high speed roll on, as the noise makes it seem faster than it is?

Nothing in it regarding the top speed between the two given points on the same road, but with the std can fitted it covered that given distance quickly, better throttle response going up through the gears being the key I suspect

It is also fair to say that I don't have Techlusion box nor has it been chipped, just a std GS with the Remus Y-piece fitted.

It was really nice cruising at 80mph with no Remus noise pounding away in me ear drums, just minor wind vibration thats all.

Its still to early to say if I will sell it or not just yet, but I have just spent a good number of hours cleaning & polishing it....just in case!

BTBR

 

[littleredrooster]

Re: Conclusion.......

Without a shadow of doubt with the OE can fitted it has more pull than the Remus can does in the midrange section.

...confirms wot my arse told me, then.

Great arses think alike.

 

[BTBR]

Oh BTW, I forgot to mention one other important point............................the OE can sounds like you are ridin' a friggin' sewing machine

BTBR