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[drinkingparrot]

Need to replace my helmet for this years onslaught, But cant make my mind up whether to get the S1 or C2, any thoughts on the matter will be appreciated. I have been useing an Arai quantum F for the last 5 years, and although it has let me down on the odd occasion I have to say it has served me well, although a little on the noisey side it is really comfortable. I also wear glassess so was thinking along the lines of the C2, but I also need to fit a comm:s unit and think the S1 would be more suitable, and more in line with what I allready have. Any thoughts please, and where might be the best place to buy at the moment

 

[Micky]

Need to replace my helmet for this years onslaught, But cant make my mind up whether to get the S1 or C2, any thoughts on the matter will be appreciated. I have been useing an Arai quantum F for the last 5 years, and although it has let me down on the odd occasion I have to say it has served me well, although a little on the noisey side it is really comfortable. I also wear glassess so was thinking along the lines of the C2, but I also need to fit a comm:s unit and think the S1 would be more suitable, and more in line with what I allready have. Any thoughts please, and where might be the best place to buy at the moment

I think the Schuberth C2 is one of the best... well at least it suits me in every respect, but what is a good helmet for one person is not so good for someone else. Fitting coms into a C2 can be fiddly.

Not much help I know, but it's C2 for me every time...

www.adventure.gs

 

[GSmonkey]

I moved from a Quantum F to an Arai Astro R, which I found too noisy, so I sold it and bought a C2. Didn't like the construction (too open faced, didn't look strong enough), fit, noise level or visor anti-mist. Sold that and got an S1. A great lid, excellent at high speed (no lift), quiet. Upgraded to the pinlock visor and haven't looked back.

 

[Dave284]

I went for the Schuberth S1, also a glasses and contact lens user. When you go away on a trip more than one day, you need to take 2 pairs of glasses, pair of sunglasses, changing many times a day as daylight changes.

With the S1 the integral sun visor sold it for me.

 

[drinkingparrot]

Schuberth

http://www.helmetcity.co.uk/ anybody know anything about this outlet ?

 

[GSmonkey]

http://www.helmetcity.co.uk/ anybody know anything about this outlet ?

Yes - thats where i got my s1 from. I collected as they are local. A pukka outfit, replaced the sun visor which was deformed.

 

[malc]

c2 for me too I love mine too bits do a search on my postings & there are 2 reports from me somewhere on the c2

 

[walrond]

I have both the C1 and the S1.

Both are great for glasses. I wear them and they fit perfectly inside the helmet.
I just got an Autocom system and installed it in the S1. I do have room in the ear area but it is pretty tough to hide all the wires. I have them tucked into the padding and used black electrical tape wrapped with the sticky side out to keep the wires from falling out. I have seen plenty of C1 helmets with an Autocom setup and honestly, it looks like it will be better. When I find the time I will be moving the setup to the C1. Probably a couple of weeks from now.

You will be happy with either helmet.

 

[Cooky]

Do a search on the problems of an S1 visor. It is simply dangerous in rain, particularly if you wear glasses. Don't believe all the rubbish that 'it was just a bad batch'. I've had replacements and they were all shyte in the rain. The only reliable cure that I've heard of is a pinlock visor. They are not cheap which for an already expensive helmet is bollox service.

I'm happy to spend a bit a cash to sort problems but I now wear my 5 year old Arai with a strip of gaffa tape on the top edge of the visor to block out the sun. Sorted.

 

[Cestria]

Do a search on the problems of an S1 visor. It is simply dangerous in rain.

Hi Andrew , would you mind explaining the problems you have been having. I'm interested as I've been thinking about an S1 as a replacement for my Quantum F Arai.
I dont wear glasses (yet)!!
If the problem is something like rain staying on the outside of the visor could rain X help or cure it ?
The Arai is not perfect as I sometimes have misting problems when its cold / wet, and when I've tried leaving the visor open a 'smidge' to clear it I have had the rain get on the inside of the visor, which is a pain. generally only during heavy and prolonged rain though.

 

[Cooky]

Cestria,

I do a lot of town commuting. The problem breaksdown as follows:

Driving along it starts to rain;
Visor and glasses gets misty/condensation on inside;
Crack open visor, rain runs down inside of visor;
Lift up visor, glasses get covered in rain;
Blind;
Buy and fit fog-city;
Visor so curved that fog-city seriously affects night vision;
Buy and apply Bob Heath anti mist;
Realise it doesn't work on some glasses and takes up far too much of your life because you have to reapply it every other day;
Do a stupid post on ukgser.com about sawing your visor in half;
Get a life;
Dig out the old Arai with it's fog-city which works fine and do what the couriers do with the gaffa tape on the visor to keep the sun out;
Apologise to your Arai for ever having doubted it.

I thought it wouldn't be such a problem out of town until I ran into some thick fog in Normandy.

I'm sure a pinlock's the answer but that means you're in effect buying a fecking expensive helmet just for the sun visor.

Sorry to rant but their S1 visor is dangerous in my opinion.

 

[darklord]

Do a search on the problems of an S1 visor. It is simply dangerous in rain, particularly if you wear glasses. Don't believe all the rubbish that 'it was just a bad batch'. I've had replacements and they were all shyte in the rain. The only reliable cure that I've heard of is a pinlock visor. They are not cheap which for an already expensive helmet is bollox service.

Unfortunately I have to concur with Andrew. I'm one of these crazy people who commute on a bike in nearly all weathers and my Schuberth S1 is pretty much unusable in the rain below 60mph. Above 55-60, the airflow through the helmet clears the visor OKish (it doesn't manage if the weather is cold) but as soon as I get into London 60mph are only a distant dream so the visor starts fogging up.

Then you've got to open it, water starts running down the inside of the visor. You close the visor again and it mists up even worse where the water has run down the inside. Only cure again is to go over 60mph and fly blind for a few minutes until the visor is clear.

I fondly remember a ride home in where I turned off the motorway near Leeds castle to enjoy the backroads even though it was p*ssing down. I was also rather cold. The rain got worse and five minutes later I couldn't see anything - had to ride home at 40 mph with the visor open. Now I'm four-eyed so the ride home looked something like this:

- Ride a bit
- Stop to clean glasses
- Ride a bit
- Stop to clean glasses
- Repeat ad nauseam

So muggins here fires off an slightly annoyed email to Schuberth, gets an email back saying "Please send in helmet, well check it over for you".

Jolly good, thinks I, all I need is a helmet to tide me over while the Schuberth's away. As I was buying an 1150GSA at the time, the BMW dealer did do me a good deal on a BMW Sportintegral, one of the very few helmets that fit me properly.

I think you can guess what's coming - the SportIntegral is made by Schuberth and suffers from similar problems

The Schuberth is already on the third visor and now (after about 18 months) the sideplate is worn to the extent that the visor snaps out of it if you open it fully. It only took my local dealer about 3 months to get new side plates...

TBH I'll keep the Schuberth for summer as that's what it's good at but I'm now looking at a Shoei XR1000 for rear-round use.

If you don't ride in British rain and not below 10C, it's a good helmet. Unfortunately I do both, sometimes even at the same time...

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

My S1 has been ok in rain

It has a Pinlock visor fitted

Use a Pinlock and all will be fine, I wear glasses too

I've had to use Fog City inserts on my previous Shoei and Dainese Helmets, so no change with those either

Pinlock S1 visor cost me the same as either an Arai or Shoei Visor replacement, so they're all much of a muchness, so to speak

 

[darklord]

Just out of interest, where do you get a pinlock visor for the S1? And how much pain in the wallet do you feel when paying for it?

Oh, and does said pinlock visor also have the coating on the rain outside that results in the whole visor being covered in droplets when you're riding through light rain?

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Just out of interest, where do you get a pinlock visor for the S1? And how much pain in the wallet do you feel when paying for it?

Oh, and does said pinlock visor also have the coating on the rain outside that results in the whole visor being covered in droplets when you're riding through light rain?

Bought mine in Germany last year for about £40 and doesn't seem to have an external coating and rains streams off normally at speed, from wind pressure

You can buy the special Pinlock S1 visor and pinlock insert separately, so you don't have to buy the combination again.

 

[STUBBS]

shu c2 for me with autocom fitted no probs, great quiet helmet

 

[darklord]

Bought mine in Germany last year for about £40 and doesn't seem to have an external coating and rains streams off normally at speed, from wind pressure

You can buy the special Pinlock S1 visor and pinlock insert separately, so you don't have to buy the combination again.

Well, looks like you've got a decent deal - I've just been quote 90 quid with a two week lead time[1] from my local Schuberth-stocking retailer in London.

Time to look for one on ebay Germany then...

[1] If past performance is a guide with three days turning into three months, I'd have it when it's time to replace the helmet...

 

[TheJoker]

I've got an S1 (integral one) and I like it a lot. But I thought that the visor misting problem was universal to all lids. Ride long enough in slow speeds and your visor/glasses mist up beyond recognition.

What exactly is a pinlock visor?

Why can't we get helmets with comfort just like a car; heated visor, wiper, washer, dry warm air... can't be that difficult! I doubt fighter pilots stop and wipe their visors

 

[shready]

I spent a couple of hours at Infinity in Purley this morning and left empty handed as I could not choose between an S1 and a Arai Astro-R.

Did a search on here and found Helmet City, by coincidence they are about 5 miutes drive away

Popped down there and got an S1 for £275 instead of £359 Infinity were asking

It was a tough choice between the two but I like the extra space in front of my nose and lower jaw that you get with the S1, and no, I'm not like Jimmy Hill

Fortunately Infinity did not have the colour and size of S1 I wanted, thank goodness that could have been expensive .

The guy at Helmet City was great, they have hundreds of lids there including Arai.