Slippery Anakees?

[TheJoker]

Guys,

My rear Anakee (ca 2,700 miles) is very slippery in the current weather. Pretty much every journey I make I spin up the rear or slide around a bend... It's not alarming but I'd like a little more grip...

Is this normal for the Anakess, or is it all these types (Tourances, etc) of tyres?

 

[Russ]

Guys,

My rear Anakee (ca 2,700 miles) is very slippery in the current weather. Pretty much every journey I make I spin up the rear or slide around a bend... It's not alarming but I'd like a little more grip...

Is this normal for the Anakess, or is it all these types (Tourances, etc) of tyres?

As a reformed VFR owner, Metzlers have always been a big no no for me...but i must say the tourances are pretty brilliant on the GS. I have similar tyre mileage to you and they seem to work quite well in this weather. I have been able to induce spin ups (4/5th gear overtake, cold damp road, all revs no go...a testament to how good the bike is in not spitting me off)

I think these knobbly tyres aren't as good gripping compared to normal (sports/sports tourer) road tyres as they have less surface area on the road, but also I think the knobbly bits can behave like cooling fins as the air passes through them they wick away the heat.

One thing i have noticed is the rear tyre gets warm, but not so the front tyre...

 

[GSmonkey]

Ive got newish anakees on mine and they slide around. Rear snakes on downshift quite bad.

I'm still getting used to the GS though and never tried the tourances, so I don't really know if this is to be expected with traile tyres

 

[The Phantom Pieman]

When i first put Anakees on, they seemed a bit "squirrelly". I have to be honest in that most of my riding as been in the dry ... they are worn to the edge, and nicely scalloped. And I have found them to be excellent.

The initial issue was down to typre pressures ... they were at around 30 ( effing fitter) at around the recommended pressures they became a whole lot better ....

But this is on a ADV .... so it's probably aload of tosh for the 1200

 

[Chrysostom]

I've had anakees on my 12 from new (1,900 m now) with slips and slides only on wet metal covers or road paint - which I know I should try to avoid, with the front, at least.

I've never had squirming on downshifts, maybe because I try to match gear to engine revs.

 

[Russ]

This annakes sound like they are going on my don't buy list.

The only time i can get the rear to spin up in the wet is very enthusiatic throttle openings in first, drain cover or if i go over the nasty road humps leading up to my village (but those road humps also cause rear to spin in the dry).

I can thrash the bike down the motorway slip in 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc in the pouring rain and no spin ups, no drama...

 

[Commuter]

Current Roads too

I went out today for a 100 miles spin and noticed that my Tourances (over 2k on them) were a little slippy. The roads seem to have that horrible salt / road crap and dirt film with a small amount of moisture.

Shouldn't say it, but it could do with pissing down to wash some of this shit away.


Of course, if you are using a heavy right fist, then you will get squirming tyres.....but you know that
HTH, Nick

 

[MasterDabber]

On Tourances today...

Went on a back lane near Selbourne (Hants) today... came to a pretty steep downhill bit with a total covering of mud for about 60 to 70 yards.. no way of avoiding it... went down in 1st, stayed off the brakes and kept it as upright and smooth as possible.. could feel the rear trying to break away but it stayed straight. A nervous moment
Thought the roads were generally pretty slippy.

 

[Commuter]

This annakes sound like they are going on my don't buy list.

The only time i can get the rear to spin up in the wet is very enthusiatic throttle openings in first, drain cover or if i go over the nasty road humps leading up to my village (but those road humps also cause rear to spin in the dry).

I can thrash the bike down the motorway slip in 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc in the pouring rain and no spin ups, no drama...

You better get you bike to the shop mate, I can wheel spin in every gear!!! Give me the right surface of course

 

[Colin O]

When I first got my 1150GS it had Michelin T66's on. They were terrible in the wet, all over the place on banding and locking up very easily on downshifts (made worse by the sticky gears on my 1150, often by the time I was able to get it into gear the revs had died away!).

(Fortunately!) I got a huge nail in the rear so I decided to change both wheels to Tourance, throwing away a nearly new front T66.

The Tourance were much better and I don't ever remember having a hairy moment with them in any weather.

I got my 12GS in July and was horrified when I saw it had Michelin (Anakee) tyres. However, I must say they have been good in the wet but do hop about a bit on cat's eyes etc.

Bike's now done about 4200 miles and the rear only has about another 1000 miles left in it. In contrast, I was getting about 7000 miles out of the Tourances.

It's hard to compare though, as my experience with the tyres has been on different bikes. Although the 12GS has more power, it comes in higher up than my 1150 so would have thought that it would be kinder to the tyres.

I can't decide whether to stick with the Anakees, or switch to Tourance when the time comes.

It will be interesting to see what comments are made about these tyres now the bad weather has come. Maybe some one will set up a poll?

Colin.

 

[GSmonkey]

The initial issue was down to typre pressures ... they were at around 30 ( effing fitter) at around the recommended pressures they became a whole lot better ....

What are the correct tyre pressures???? (Don't say look in the manual, as BMW still haven't sent me one )

 

[Colin O]

From memory (not going out to the garage & removing the seat now) it's 2.2 bar front & 2.5 rear.

 

[oddball]

Had T66 and then anakees on the last bike but that was such a wobbly old bus by comparison with the 12 that it was hard to tell if the tyres were gripping at all.

The last T66 I had chunked up at 120 on the mway and destroyed a hugger. Michelin replaced both for me, cheaper than paying the wife for a dead rider!

At the NEC I spoke to a guy on the Bridgestone stand about the new battlewing tyre they have developed. He runs a 955 tiger with BT020s and swears by them so much he said the new battlewing was not even worth looking at.

Anyone run BT020s?

 

[Dave Price]

It won't make any difference what tyres you've got at this time of the year. The combination of road salt and damp roads, will cause the tyres to slide on all but the most abrasive surfaces.
Just hold your breath, clench yer buttocks and ride as smoothly as possible. If your riding properly, it will usually only be a rear slide and never as far as your sphincta thinks.
Will certainly make you a better rider though.

 

[HMR]

Gents,
I must say that I am a little surpriced by the experienses you have from the Anakee's.

In direct comparison Anakee - Tourance the main differences I noticed where:

- The Anakee has MUCH better grip on wet and/or cold road.

- The Tourance has MUCH better milage.

Personally I prefer the Anakee on paved roads and TKC80 on gravel.

 

[Mouse]

What are the correct tyre pressures???? (Don't say look in the manual, as BMW still haven't sent me one )

The pressures are listed on a sticker on the back of the small left hand side panel. Pull it off to read.

I run mine at 36 front 42 rear, whether I have a pillion or not, and that seems ok.

 

[Mr K]

Anakees are brill.

What kind of dealer gives you a bike without a manual?

Seriously does BMW Germany know this kind of sh*t is going on?

We are paying premium prices for bullshit service?

In Germay you are treated like a doG if you ride a BMW..

CMK

 

[GSmonkey]

What kind of dealer gives you a bike without a manual?

It is an ex demonstrator and apparently the demonstrators weren't sent out with manuals. Hopefully get one at the weekend, but by the sounds of it I'm not missing much

 

[andy1200]

What kind of dealer gives you a bike without a manual?

Mine (bought in Poland) came with only a German manual. English, Polish, French, Czech, Slovak I can understand. A few others I can get the gist easy enough. But not German

Back on topic ...

I haven't tried Anakees and it sounds as if I doubt I will. My R1150R came with Macadams, absolutely the worst tyre in the known universe on sale today, so know how you feel.

My GS came with Dunlop 607s and will for sure replace with same. A very happy bunny.

 

[Greg Masters]

My rear Anakee (ca 2,700 miles) is very slippery in the current weather. Pretty much every journey I make I spin up the rear or slide around a bend... It's not alarming but I'd like a little more grip...

The roads are coated with greased manure at this time of year. In the last week, two of my work colleagues have dropped their bikes (neither rides a GS). I've had a few decent slides in my roadcar and I've even noticed wheelspin from my neighbour's diesel Metro.

Make sure the tyre pressures are bang on, keep the suspension settings as soft as your loads allow and don't use too much throttle or brake. Be smoooooth!

Greg