Some questions about Tyrol

[AlanI]

@ swenski

If you visit here http://www.uem-moto.eu/Tourism/OverviewUEMmaps/tabid/54/Default.aspx and either download and save to your computer (it's in pdf format so printable) or view the Österreich map (top left), and then locate Innsbruck. The 'old' Brenner road is the one just to the right of the motorway underneath Innsbruck. The town of Lans lies on the beginning of this road.

By the way, all the maps you see via the above given link are downloadable and printable so worth bookmarking this page for future reference. The roads marked in green on these maps are those recommended for motorcyclists by the ADAC e.g. picturesque, curve rich etc etc. The passes are also named along with the distances between various points.............blue numerals between adjacent green diamond shaped arrows.

 

[svenski]

AlanI,
Thanks a lot for all your help..

I spent so much time looking all over the web and have bought maps of Austria and the Dolimites to double checking all the routes I’ve plotted. The only job left is checking toll prices on passes, and if the passes are open with the use of Alpine Road just before I leave, with what I have seen the majority of passes open around the start of June end of may, but with weather we’ve had lately there is a chance some of the higher passes could still be closed.

 

[peterc]

We stayed at Fernblick last year, brilliant hotel, cant fault it and a great location to explore the area, including lots of the passes you mentioned, we also toured 'Stelvio' one you have to do one day . Have a brill holiday.

 

[Phluppe]

Silvretta, Timmelsjoch and Kaunertalstrasse are toll roads.

For a short impression of the Kaunertal road follow this link=> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GOw9gu6yHI

The vignette is cheap enough to buy one, and not worry if you're gonna wind up on a toll road section. Just buy one, and don't worry. It's not like Switzerland.

Grtz, Philip!

 

[sven]

Did all the passes last year, you can buy a 24 hrs Austrian vignette if required, the Silverette is a great pass road, Grossglockner was no technical challenge
We mapped the passes into Google maps if it helps
http://goo.gl/maps/7YO6

I thought the Silvretta was quite a dull pass with slow boring roads through villages at either end as far as I remember (it was 2005) The scenery looked a lot like Scotland.

Not sure what you mean about the Grossglockner not being technically challenging. If you mean ridiculously tight hairpin bends like the Umbrail and Stelvio passes, then no it isn't challenging. However, I prefer nice sweeping hairpin bends which are fun to ride and the Grossglockner ticks all the boxes in this respect

 

[The Grey One]

And try this one

I thought the Silvretta was quite a dull pass with slow boring roads through villages at either end as far as I remember (it was 2005) The scenery looked a lot like Scotland.

Not sure what you mean about the Grossglockner not being technically challenging. If you mean ridiculously tight hairpin bends like the Umbrail and Stelvio passes, then no it isn't challenging. However, I prefer nice sweeping hairpin bends which are fun to ride and the Grossglockner ticks all the boxes in this respect

I'll second that! You might try the Nockalmstrasse http://www.nockalmstrasse.at/en/ Many of our guests have said they think that for riding the Nockalmstrasse is even better than the Grossglockner.

John

 

[svenski]

I'll second that! You might try the Nockalmstrasse http://www.nockalmstrasse.at/en/ Many of our guests have said they think that for riding the Nockalmstrasse is even better than the Grossglockner.

John

Hi John,
I looked at both the Nockalmstrasse and the Grossglockner, both of which look great and I look forward to riding sometime in the future, but this trip I have to keep the boss happy, so focused on passes close to the hotel.

All that she’s asked and looking forward to is the Zugspitze and travel round mainland Europe for the first time.

Sven

 

[AlanI]

All that she’s asked and looking forward to is the Zugspitze and travel round mainland Europe for the first time.

Cough cough..........don't forget to raid the Piggy Bank before setting off LOL. You do realise that it costs €38 per person to get up there don't you. Anyway, if you haven't stumbled across this yet you may find it interesting. http://www.zugspitze.de/en/winter/index.htm But yes, if she means that much to you then it's worth the trip............the views are magnificent. Did you know that there is an annual race whereby people......very stupid people.......run UP from bottom to top. Any yes......from time to time some die in the effort.

 

[svenski]

Cough cough..........don't forget to raid the Piggy Bank before setting off LOL. You do realise that it costs €38 per person to get up there don't you. Anyway, if you haven't stumbled across this yet you may find it interesting. http://www.zugspitze.de/en/winter/index.htm But yes, if she means that much to you then it's worth the trip............the views are magnificent. Did you know that there is an annual race whereby people......very stupid people.......run UP from bottom to top. Any yes......from time to time some die in the effort.

Hi again Alan,
I’m planning to use the http://www.zugspitzbahn.at/zugspitzbahn/en/summer_cable_cars.html to get to the top and on the return trip to the hotel stopping off at a Summer toboggan run in Biberweir. On the other rest days were of to visit Neuschwanstein http://www.neuschwanstein.de/englisch/palace/index.htm and of course whilst were close to munchen the trip to BMW Welt/Museum.

 

[AlanI]

For your visit to Neuschwanstein I recommend that you plan to arrive there as early in the day as possible. The queues to get in especially in the peak tourist season are horrendous......and that is to put it mildly.

Is a visit to Berchtesgarten and the Eagles Nest on your list of things to must see?

 

[svenski]

For your visit to Neuschwanstein I recommend that you plan to arrive there as early in the day as possible. The queues to get in especially in the peak tourist season are horrendous......and that is to put it mildly.

Is a visit to Berchtesgarten and the Eagles Nest on your list of things to must see?

Yes I’d looked at Kehlsteinhaus http://www.kehlsteinhaus.com/ to visit on my next trip to the Alps, where I look forward to riding the both the Nockalmstrasse and the Grossglockner.

The Alps are amazing and there is so much to see it just trying not to be too eager to see everything and get tired riding to far and wide, I plan just to try and keep fairly close to the hotel. It's hard work keeping the other half happy with also treating yourself in the process.

Do you think Neuschwanstein would be busy mid June if so I could always go to Linderhof Palace http://www.schlosslinderhof.de/englisch/palace/history.htm .

Thanks Alan for all you help greatly appreciated

 

[AlanI]

Do you think Neuschwanstein would be busy mid June

Oh yes, especially after the Japanese have had their breakfast, put a new memory card into their cameras and are on the road in the coaches. It would be a great shame not to see it, especially if you are in the area anyway, but like I said earlier, simply plan to get their pretty early.

As to the other place you mention........no idea - never been there.

You mentioned the Stilfser Joch in an earlier post so sit back and enjoy............this could be you in June. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMimoto#p/u/5/M1y9GIC60A4

 

[Sofasleeper]

[Originally Posted by svenski

Do you think Neuschwanstein would be busy mid June]

Does, of course depend on what you are after:

A quick photo to prove you've been there can be achieved from one of the approach roads to the north (use google earth to find a location) thereby avoiding the grockles.

The Neuschwanstein is an unfinished folly and, apart from the structure itself, lacking in charachter - the adjacent King Ludwig family home(castle) of Hohenschwangau is far more culturally rewarding.

Linderhof is more off the beaten track and lacks the visual and cultural impact of the 2 castles - a miniature copy of Versailles.

Get there early regardless of which you choose!

 

[Kawanor]

Only nice road

The first tour in the Alps wil be fantastic,,every road wil be a adventure,,and you wil go back for another trip,,,like all of us......have fun..

 

[svenski]

The Neuschwanstein is an unfinished folly and, apart from the structure itself, lacking in charachter - the adjacent King Ludwig family home(castle) of Hohenschwangau is far more culturally rewarding.

Get there early regardless of which you choose!

Hey Sleeper,
Thanks for the heads up on my trip to Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau, like Alan I mentioned, arrive early..

I’ve noticed before when doing my research, you need to book a time slot for a tour, and the walk between is around 50 minutes.

 

[svenski]

The first tour in the Alps wil be fantastic,,every road wil be a adventure,,and you wil go back for another trip,,,like all of us......have fun..

Kawanor,
With everything I’ve seen on youtube and read on all the different forums/sites.

Both of us can’t wait to get going now.

 

[AlanI]

A few of the lesser known passes but equally exhilarating. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMHeLWwzOhA&feature=related

 

[svenski]

A few of the lesser known passes but equally exhilarating. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMHeLWwzOhA&feature=related

Hi Alan,
Thank you for sharing that link, I would love to spend more than a week exploring the Alps and the entire passes shown on that clip, as I bet most people on this forum.

Watching it reminds me of the reason why I love motorcycling and why I own a GS Adventure.

Sven

 

[(RIP) andrewgsadv]

Svenski
Vignette 5 euro at service station off end of A7 lasts 10 days. Did all those pass roads some years ago. The Fern at weekends is packed and i really loved the Jaufen because we had a race with a local on a R100R with slick tires. I thought oooh ello lets have it. Anyway stayed with him for 3/4 of run then met him at the top, he had his coffee and a half smoked fag. He smiled at us . Next time matey.
Enjoy your trip, take loads of photos
Andrew