alan t
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Somebody must have some info on this and the best route to take to get to Stelvio.
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I wasn't as impressed with Stelvio as some of the others, such as Grimsel/Furka/Susten.
Tim
I wasn't as impressed with Stelvio as some of the others, such as Grimsel/Furka/Susten.
Tim
ALEXG
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This is our itinerary for our Alpine tour last summer taking in Stelvio and loads of other awesome passes . In early June , the Swiss side of Stelvio was shut due to landslides but the Italian side is fantastic . All these Hotels are very biker friendly .
Saturday June 5th
Depart 07:33 - UK - Channel Tunnel to Calais - A26 - Reims - A4 - A26 - Troys (Lunch) N71 - Dijon - A31 - Hotel at Saône-et-Loire = total of 385 miles. A biker friendly hotel 60 miles south of Dijon run by Ilse & Ruedi Stahel-Zerlauth.
Hotel website: http://www.motor-bike-hotels.com/index2.htm
Sunday June 6th (Swiss Alps)
Depart from Saône-et-Loire - A6 - Macon - A40 (Switzerland) Geneva - A1 - Lausanne - E27 - Montreux - A9 - E62 - Sion - Sierre - Brig (Lunch) Rt19 Oberwald - Furka Pass - Andermatt - Oberalp Pass - Rt19 - <Chur> E43 - Thusis - Tiefencastel - Savognin - Hotel at Bivio (Minotel Solaria) for 4 nights = total of 381 miles.
Monday June 7th to Wednesday June 9th (Swiss, Italian & Austrian Alps)
The Hotel (Minotel) Solaria is situated along the famous 'Julierpass' at an altitude of 1800 mtrs with St. Moritz to the East and Davos/Klosters to the North. The Solaria is geared to host motorcyclists wishing to explore the various Alpine passes such as... Albaulapass, Bernina, Stevlio and Umbrail, all within a days ride.
Hotel website: http://www.hotelsolariabivio.ch/
Thursday June 10th (Black Forest, Germany)
Depart from Bivio - Davos - Rt 28 - Klosters - Buchs - N13 - Rt 16 - Kappel (Lunch) - Wil - A1 - Winterthur - A4/E41- (Germany) B34 - Waldshut - B500 - Hinterbarental - B317 (West) - Feldbergerhof = total of 191 miles.
One night stay at the Hotel Feldberger Hof at 1,300 mtrs (above sea level) in the southern Black Forest, amid a breathtaking nature reserve and ski centre.
Hotel website: http://www.feldberger-hof.de/
Friday June 11th (Luxembourg)
We are off to Luxembourg via some challenging roads through the Black Forest and Autobahns
Depart from Hofsgrund - B31 - Hofsgrund - B500 - Baden-Baden - A35 Autobahn - Haguenau - N62 - D35 - Zweibrucken - A8 Autobahn - 268 - Trier (Luxembourg) - 49 - 418 - Echternach - N10 - N19 - N17 - Diekrirch- Erpeldange - N27 - Bourscheid - CR308 - Kehmen - CR349 - Welscheid = total of 297 miles.
The Hôtel REUTER and restaurant is situated in the small village of Welscheid with a population of 145 citizens. Welscheid situated in the valley of the Wark, in the center of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg.
Hotel website: http://www.hotel-reuter.lu/English/frame.htm
Saturday June 12th
Depart Welscheid - CR349 - Feulen - N15 - (Belgium) - Oberwampach - N84 - N4 - A26 - E25 - (Lunch in Liege) - A3 - E40 - N25 - A3 - <Brussels> - A10 - <Ghent> - E40 - A18 - (France) - A16 - Calais = total of 280 miles.
Depart 20:31 - Calais - Channel Tunnel to UK.
Saturday June 5th
Depart 07:33 - UK - Channel Tunnel to Calais - A26 - Reims - A4 - A26 - Troys (Lunch) N71 - Dijon - A31 - Hotel at Saône-et-Loire = total of 385 miles. A biker friendly hotel 60 miles south of Dijon run by Ilse & Ruedi Stahel-Zerlauth.
Hotel website: http://www.motor-bike-hotels.com/index2.htm
Sunday June 6th (Swiss Alps)
Depart from Saône-et-Loire - A6 - Macon - A40 (Switzerland) Geneva - A1 - Lausanne - E27 - Montreux - A9 - E62 - Sion - Sierre - Brig (Lunch) Rt19 Oberwald - Furka Pass - Andermatt - Oberalp Pass - Rt19 - <Chur> E43 - Thusis - Tiefencastel - Savognin - Hotel at Bivio (Minotel Solaria) for 4 nights = total of 381 miles.
Monday June 7th to Wednesday June 9th (Swiss, Italian & Austrian Alps)
The Hotel (Minotel) Solaria is situated along the famous 'Julierpass' at an altitude of 1800 mtrs with St. Moritz to the East and Davos/Klosters to the North. The Solaria is geared to host motorcyclists wishing to explore the various Alpine passes such as... Albaulapass, Bernina, Stevlio and Umbrail, all within a days ride.
Hotel website: http://www.hotelsolariabivio.ch/
Thursday June 10th (Black Forest, Germany)
Depart from Bivio - Davos - Rt 28 - Klosters - Buchs - N13 - Rt 16 - Kappel (Lunch) - Wil - A1 - Winterthur - A4/E41- (Germany) B34 - Waldshut - B500 - Hinterbarental - B317 (West) - Feldbergerhof = total of 191 miles.
One night stay at the Hotel Feldberger Hof at 1,300 mtrs (above sea level) in the southern Black Forest, amid a breathtaking nature reserve and ski centre.
Hotel website: http://www.feldberger-hof.de/
Friday June 11th (Luxembourg)
We are off to Luxembourg via some challenging roads through the Black Forest and Autobahns
Depart from Hofsgrund - B31 - Hofsgrund - B500 - Baden-Baden - A35 Autobahn - Haguenau - N62 - D35 - Zweibrucken - A8 Autobahn - 268 - Trier (Luxembourg) - 49 - 418 - Echternach - N10 - N19 - N17 - Diekrirch- Erpeldange - N27 - Bourscheid - CR308 - Kehmen - CR349 - Welscheid = total of 297 miles.
The Hôtel REUTER and restaurant is situated in the small village of Welscheid with a population of 145 citizens. Welscheid situated in the valley of the Wark, in the center of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg.
Hotel website: http://www.hotel-reuter.lu/English/frame.htm
Saturday June 12th
Depart Welscheid - CR349 - Feulen - N15 - (Belgium) - Oberwampach - N84 - N4 - A26 - E25 - (Lunch in Liege) - A3 - E40 - N25 - A3 - <Brussels> - A10 - <Ghent> - E40 - A18 - (France) - A16 - Calais = total of 280 miles.
Depart 20:31 - Calais - Channel Tunnel to UK.
Iain Hogg
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ALEXG said:
But the Stelvio is totally within Italy
Paul Narramore
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I was at Stevio last August. Fantastic pass and this is the view from the top. We stayed at the Hotel Enzian at Landeck, Austria (www.hotel-enzian.com) a motorcyclist-friendly hotel, and one of a chain of motorcyclist-friendly hotels in Austria (www.motorrad-hotel.com). Highly recommended.
Paul Narramore
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ALEXG
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Ian is of course correct. The Stelvio is entirely in Italy . That section of the pass shown in Paul's picture was shut about half way up due to landslides . We approached instead via the Umbrail pass and got to the top that way . By the Italian section I meant the route down from the ski station into Bormio.
Paul Narramore said:
So was I ................must of missed you.........what do you think of the Enzian?
Global Rider
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Iain Hogg said:But the Stelvio is totally within Italy
True. Maybe they meant that it can also be reached from the town of Santa Maria in Münstertal in Switzerland. That road takes you over the Umbrail Pass which runs into the Stelvio road, just a few kilometers west of the Stelvio Pass.
BTW, for tarmac only riders, the road up to the Umbrail Pass consists of about 2.6 kilometers of gravel.
Henry Mawson
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Not Henry, his horny girly...
H has already done the Stelvio and we'll be doing it together this year. Me on my Dakar - ooh mother!!!!
Note to self - must polish up my u-turns.
H has already done the Stelvio and we'll be doing it together this year. Me on my Dakar - ooh mother!!!!
Note to self - must polish up my u-turns.
Paul Narramore
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JB
The Hotel Enzian was brilliant although the ride-out was a bit hairy. It was hard work keeping up with Mad Klaus on his KTM with us two on a heavy Pan, and some of the German riders don't seem to care about overtaking on blind bends, double white lines, and all.
We took the opportunity to rent the Triumph Tiger for the day also - a really nice, if tall, bike. Loads of poke.
The food at the hotel was good. Most of the guests were Germans who, these days, don't have a lot of money to spend. I think their country is feeling the pinch. On the ride out, whenever we stopped for breaks, we'd go into the cafe whilst they all stayed outside.
A dose of food poisoning buggered up one day - never eat cold mussels in a salad.
We couldn't really fault the place although should we return to Austria, we'd probably try one of the other hotels in the group. Apparently the Italian Dolomites are a 'must see'.
The Hotel Enzian was brilliant although the ride-out was a bit hairy. It was hard work keeping up with Mad Klaus on his KTM with us two on a heavy Pan, and some of the German riders don't seem to care about overtaking on blind bends, double white lines, and all.
We took the opportunity to rent the Triumph Tiger for the day also - a really nice, if tall, bike. Loads of poke.
The food at the hotel was good. Most of the guests were Germans who, these days, don't have a lot of money to spend. I think their country is feeling the pinch. On the ride out, whenever we stopped for breaks, we'd go into the cafe whilst they all stayed outside.
A dose of food poisoning buggered up one day - never eat cold mussels in a salad.
We couldn't really fault the place although should we return to Austria, we'd probably try one of the other hotels in the group. Apparently the Italian Dolomites are a 'must see'.
Tiger
Is this the tiger Paul?I was there also in July,but for one night only,just thought I would see what is was like as I had heard so many good things about these places.I found it to be fantastic,the food is excellent,the rooms and fittings are just top class,you actually feel like are in top class hotel,and thats just inside.Outside you have the facilities off the secure lock up,bike lift,jet wash,blah blah blah.Not the cheapest at £45 a night,but that was with as much food as a greedy person could possibly eat.Was it worth it?every penny IMHO hope to go back this year for a couple of days.Andy
Is this the tiger Paul?I was there also in July,but for one night only,just thought I would see what is was like as I had heard so many good things about these places.I found it to be fantastic,the food is excellent,the rooms and fittings are just top class,you actually feel like are in top class hotel,and thats just inside.Outside you have the facilities off the secure lock up,bike lift,jet wash,blah blah blah.Not the cheapest at £45 a night,but that was with as much food as a greedy person could possibly eat.Was it worth it?every penny IMHO hope to go back this year for a couple of days.Andy
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Paul Narramore
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Yup, that's the Tiger alright. A super bike but a bit too tall for my little legs. And went like the wind too. We rode up to the Kaunertal (2784m) to see the glacier.
Bike rental was about £27 a day.
A funny thing happened when on the Tiger. A few days earlier, about twenty or so riders rode through the customs post inti Switzerland - no stop checks, straight through. After coming down from the glacier we thought we'd go through again only this time we were stopped.
"Passports".
"Err, they're back at the hotel".
"You have no passports?!" Papers for the bike".
"Err, they're back there as well".
"It's an Austrian registered bike".
"Yes, we've rented it".
"...and you have no i/D or papers? Park your bike up and come into the office". At this point my daft wife couldn't stop laughing. I had to resort to producing my (expired) bestest I/D card in the World (You work it out). There was then laughter all around and I was told to go back to Austria. (Switzerland is not an EEC country so passports are required to be shown.
Yes, great hotel but we must try some others in the group - www.motorrad-hotel.com
Bike rental was about £27 a day.
A funny thing happened when on the Tiger. A few days earlier, about twenty or so riders rode through the customs post inti Switzerland - no stop checks, straight through. After coming down from the glacier we thought we'd go through again only this time we were stopped.
"Passports".
"Err, they're back at the hotel".
"You have no passports?!" Papers for the bike".
"Err, they're back there as well".
"It's an Austrian registered bike".
"Yes, we've rented it".
"...and you have no i/D or papers? Park your bike up and come into the office". At this point my daft wife couldn't stop laughing. I had to resort to producing my (expired) bestest I/D card in the World (You work it out). There was then laughter all around and I was told to go back to Austria. (Switzerland is not an EEC country so passports are required to be shown.
Yes, great hotel but we must try some others in the group - www.motorrad-hotel.com
Vendome 41
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stelvio
Agree did it last year but prefered the bernina (near st moritz) and the gd st bernard in fog and snow at the end of july
Zmeagol said:
Agree did it last year but prefered the bernina (near st moritz) and the gd st bernard in fog and snow at the end of july
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