Suggestions for fitting Autocom headsets?

[guitarman]

I've managed to borrow an Autocom for a couple weeks for a Spanish trip but can't find any way of getting the earphones in place.

I've got a Caberg Justissimo and although I can get the earphones under the lining material and in the recesses in the polystyrene (presumably there for the ears) and it looks neat but it's so uncomfortable that it's not usable.

I'm reluctant to start chopping bits out of the polystyrene lining so has anybody else any ideas?

Cheers

Dick

 

[Phil Reynolds]

Dick, apart from chopping out bits of the 'styrene from your lid, by far the best option IMHO, although an expensive one, is to have a set of earplugs moulded to your lugs with speakers set into the earplugs.

The comfort is good, the sound is a revelation and you're protecting your lugs from wind noise as well.

If you go this route, a friend of Judges does them, I think they're called Ultimate ear protection, but do a search on the board under 'earplugs' and you'll find the details. Mention Judge and you'll even get a discount!

Have a good trip!!

Phil

 

[arethustra]

I've managed to borrow an Autocom for a couple weeks for a Spanish trip but can't find any way of getting the earphones in place.

I've got a Caberg Justissimo and although I can get the earphones under the lining material and in the recesses in the polystyrene (presumably there for the ears) and it looks neat but it's so uncomfortable that it's not usable.

I'm reluctant to start chopping bits out of the polystyrene lining so has anybody else any ideas?

Cheers

Dick

One of the easiest ways to work with the styrene is with a soldering iron...the tip melts the styrene pretty easily and makes it easy to fit in the speakers...I agree on the molded earplugs but, the main issue with that is then you have to make a custom connector and hook up a seperate mic - I'm actually working on something like this for my company but, it's not yet ready for market - SORRY!

-Todd

 

[cecilthecat]

Dick

Get the earpiece and peel the velcro off the back, then push the earpiece out of the black plastic holder. You can then fit the earpiece into the recess in the helmet as it is now about half the size.

Dont worry it can all be put back together once you need to give it back to the original owner.

Simon

 

[Jimb]

Moulded earplugs with speakers in will cost £130, much more than the autocom speakers, and the cable will transmit the wind noise right into the ear, I know I make 'em and I won't sell this type to bikers.

 

[Phil Reynolds]

Jimb, I bought my earplugs from headset services based at Shoreham airport. They specialise in intercom systems, mainly for aircraft - and I've not had the wind from the wires noise you've described. in fact I've covered over 3 thousand miles using them and I love 'em!

 

[judge]

Jimb, I bought my earplugs from headset services based at Shoreham airport. They specialise in intercom systems, mainly for aircraft - and I've not had the wind from the wires noise you've described. in fact I've covered over 3 thousand miles using them and I love 'em!

No problem with mine either from Ultimate Ear

 

[guitarman]

Dick

Get the earpiece and peel the velcro off the back, then push the earpiece out of the black plastic holder. You can then fit the earpiece into the recess in the helmet as it is now about half the size.

Dont worry it can all be put back together once you need to give it back to the original owner.

Simon

Simon, I’ve had a look at the earpiece but there are actually two elements in there with very small wires which don’t look very robust. If it was my unit I’d probably give it a go but as it’s not I’ll think I’ll give it a miss.

I’ve seen the earphone plugs Phil and although they look very good I don’t really want to get involved in that expense for a one-off two up trip. My wife will only actually be on the bike for a day or so at the most as she’s flying there and back. We’ll only be two up for the journey from Biarritz to Bilbao then Bilbao to Perpignan a few days later so I reckon it’s not worth the cost.

Maybe I’ll try the old soldering iron trick.

Thanks for all your advice.

Cheers

Dick

 

[charlie batty]

Hi Dick ...

...i have 2 Schubert concepts fitted with the autocom gear...

if they fit you are welcome to borrow them..

give us a bell......

01243 389615 w
01243 371936 h
07831 454718 m

Regards

 

[Jimb]

Phil & Judge

You won't hear it but you will feel it, you'll feel fatigued like the beginings of a headache coming on, if you keep the cables out of the wind the effect will be diminished.
The regular filtered type is excellent with Autocoms speakers, these speakers are high quality units and filtered plugs are less than half the cost of earpieces.

 

[(RIP) Dennis]

Dick,
One other though, I had the same problem with my Shoei Flip front which I solved in a less drastic fashion using the handle of a screwdriver (or similar to squash back the foam locally.

It took about half an hour or so of gentle pressure, but the fit with autocom speakers is now just about perfect and with now damage to the helmet.

 

[MikeO]

Re: Phil & Judge

You won't hear it but you will feel it, you'll feel fatigued like the beginings of a headache coming on, if you keep the cables out of the wind the effect will be diminished.
The regular filtered type is excellent with Autocoms speakers, these speakers are high quality units and filtered plugs are less than half the cost of earpieces.

Could you explain this more fully Jim, it doesn't seem logical to me that the wires themselves would conduct sound - especially sound (apparently) beyond aural range???


Mike

 

[Jimb]

Mike O

The cable will vibrate in the wind turbulence and create a resonating low frequency, this is transmitted via the cable to the end of the cable, one end of which is in your ear canal, the surrounding tissue will absorb this low frequency and the eardrum will transmit it via the anvil to your brain, its too low to hear as our hearing falls off rapidly below 50 Hz even 100 hz as we age but it will cause fatigue.

If the cable can be kept out of the wind turbulence then all will be well, the earplugs with speakers in are really intended as monitors for singers or discreet surveilence monitors.

 

[MikeO]

Jim, still a bit lost (nothing new there) - will the leads vibrate whether they're tight or slack? If you tuck them into the neck of your jacket, will that protect them from the wind? What about wearing them inside a balaclava?

Cheers

Mike

 

[Adrian B]

jim, I also use autocom speakers with boom mic but find them very uncomfortable, what do you actually recommend?

 

[(RIP) Kaister]

All F1 drivers - and probably rally drivers - use earplug speakers at the moment, with varying degrees of success, usually caused by radio transmission problems.
Experiments are happening with speakers that vibrate the bones in the inner ear and throat mikes taped to the outside of the throat.

Phil

 

[guitarman]

Thanks for all the replies lads but I've after another go at the foam I've decided that as it's only for a few days I'm not going to bother.

We'll just shout at each other (nothing new there then )

Cheers

Dick

 

[Jimb]

Mike O, Yes if you keep the cable out of the wind all will be well, and yes the leads will vibrate whether taught or slack if exposed.

Adrian, Its all in the fitting, of all the lids Iv'e fitted only the BMW ones have the earholes in the right place for speakers, they shouldn't touch your ears at all, they should be set in under the lining with the exception of Shoei helmets which are specifically designed to just sit in the cavity on top of the lining.
The schuberth requires some of the polystyrene to be trimmed out so the speaker can be set half an inch lower and the speakers should be fitted in the horizontal position ( wires to the rear ) rather than vertical ( wires at the bottom)