SW Motech lamps on F800GS

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Hi all
I'm thinking of fitting some Hawk lamps to my recently acquired F800GS to make my 70 mile commute through rural Norfolk better through the winter.
Firstly, do you think the lamps provide a significant improvement over the standard (and usually very good ) BMW lights. Are the Hank lights worth the asking price of £144?
Secondly, I don't have crash bars. The hawk kit I have seen described says they fit directly to mounting points or to crash bars using a clamp kit. Are there mounting points on the bike for these lamps without using crashbars?
Would be grateful if anyone can clarify these points.
Thanks
John
 
Welcome!

Without knocking the idea of lamps... have you thought about HID upgrade to the dipped beam? Not expensive and offers night/day difference. I too do some unlit roads and this was enough for me...

If you do go the lamps route - there's a guy on ADV who made a a light bar out of a baking tray (goes between the join of the nose and the main of the bikes front plastics)

Safe travels,

S
 
If you don't fancy ...

... the baking tray idea; look up Rugged Roads who do a neat light bar for the F650/800 twins :thumb
 
OK - thanks for the replies.
I'll certainly try a high performance bulb first.
Chances are that it will suffice despite the efforts of the local farmers and sugar-beet haulage industry to cover every road with a thin veneer of mud!
Thanks again.
John
 
@ Olselwfoot, I used to have the following setup on my F800GS, and was very pleased with it.

- SW Motech supports, which allow you to put the extra lights just over the front blinkers and next to the head light. Perfect fit, easy to put on, just be prepared to give them a sanding and a spray every year, the original coating doesn't last that long.

- Fog light on the right (sat on the bike), the shortest to the side of the road in mainland Europe. You'd need to put it on the left side. With a seperate switch.

- Long beam on the other side, activated when switching the standard high beam. Had around 100m of light in front of me, turned night into day. Don't worry about the uncomming traffic, 'cause you need to turn your high beam off anyway.

- HID50 35W HID in the driving light. Made a big difference, and is great qualitiy.

Brand of extra lights isn't that important, I used a lesser known brand of lights. If you can get Hella DE's or FF50's in fog on one side and long focussed beam on the other, you'll be really happy with the outcome.

Here's a pic of the front of my ex-F800GS.

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Grtz, Philip!
 
Thanks guys
There's plenty to consider there, mostly that there are options beyond the expensive (relatively) Hawk lamps.
The HID option is good but there's are always nights in December with a wet road, heavy oncoming traffic and a smeared visor when the only thing that helps are more lamps. They do seem to be popular on many of the 1200GS's I've seen. I will experiment.
Thanks very much for these posts.
John
 
Thanks guys
There's plenty to consider there, mostly that there are options beyond the expensive (relatively) Hawk lamps.
The HID option is good but there's are always nights in December with a wet road, heavy oncoming traffic and a smeared visor when the only thing that helps are more lamps. They do seem to be popular on many of the 1200GS's I've seen. I will experiment.
Thanks very much for these posts.
John

What would be useful to know is what you are trying to achieve by way of lighting improvement?

Conspicuity day/night
Low beam night riding
High beam night riding

I read most of the threads on lighting trying to work out which options improved all three.

I was fixed on the HID route until I read the threads about HIDs burning the reflector (even the 35w versions). It seems to make a lot of sense to use the flood pattern on the OEM light but with more light form an HID and no extra bits sticking out waiting to get broken and very little wiring to do or switches. Although I have never used HIDs I suspect if you are prepared to replace the headlight unit at some point in the future it may still be an easy option but not the cheapest in the long run.

The problem I found is that few people on the threads can really convey what a particular light option is really going to do for you and what it will do to oncoming vehicles - equally important IMO if you don’t want to get dazzled by irritated motorists who flash you if your dipped lighting is too bright - it is counter-productive.

Also few manufacturers show you what the 3D beam pattern is going to be (Denally LEDs are an exception but that is only 2D beam pattern). You need to know this particularly for the dipped lights. What does a 10 or 30 degree beam really mean in practice? It is not just the beam pattern it is also where you point them and how high you mount them which makes them more or less useful for high of low beam use.

I experimented with some cheap LED lights with a flood pattern see this thread.

I can recommend dimmable LEDs although they don’t offer as much low beam benefit as I had hoped for - the dim level has to be set too low to avoid dazzling oncoming vehicles or the lamps angled too low to benefit high beam.

You need to decide how much of your winter commute can be ridden with high beam. Zen Overland is a good starting place to look for LEDs and they do a dimmer which will be better than the one I used (though without as many brightness settings). LEDs are getting cheaper and/or more powerful all the time so look around.

If you want high beam improvement with aux lights you have to tap into the high beam circuit and probably use relays powered from the battery if you want high powered LEDs, although some have lower powered units through the canbus circuit.

As for mounts the Rugged Roads mount is what I used and its great - you dont get much of a triangular pattern with the headlight - with the low indicator position. Other options you could consider are to get steering damper brackets to mount on the fork tubes. Bear in mind the fork tubes are tapered from 53-57mm so the size you get will depend on how high you want to mount them. You should be able to get some for £20 each off ebay. Zen Overland do some KTM ones which are £108 for a pair:eek:.

One final word of caution - having a high beam that throws light 150m down the road is great until you find you are driving at a speed suitable for 150m for forward vision and then suddenly have to switch to low beam with 20m of forward vision - I still get caught out. At least with the OEM lights you get much the same forward visibility in my experience - a perverse safety feature!
 
@ Phluppe hi mate, where did you get the graphix and bodywork for the green & white GS in the pics on this thread...? I love the headlight cowel above the headlight!!!
 
@Mark. Well, it's my own design and labour :D

White and green are the most common colours of my webshop (Moto Adventure Store) and since the bike was white anyway, I decided the start playing with some wrapping foil.

Al cut out by hand, took me around two evenings of work.

Here is how the bike looked at the end.

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Grtz, Philip!
 
Sorry for the off-topic, but if you like the F800GS colours, you might also like what I did to my R1150GSA next -> http://philz.smugmug.com/Motorcycle...-Moto/23641807_Fc55tZ#!i=1913217365&k=q7hvP75

Currently trying out the Hawk lights, have one "off-road" light (it's just another name for a high beam light) fitted on the R1200RT, saw some good improvement this night riding home. Fitted them on the Touratech crash bars using the Hawk clamps, they're really good to use.
The next one fitted will be the fog light on the other side, have to wait 'cause they're not in stock at my suplier right now.
I am gonna do the same on the R1150GSA, so I have the possibility to fit one high beam, and one fog on each bike since they're only available in sets of two lights, fog or high beam.

Grtz, Philip!
 


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