Tom Tom on Laptop instead of PDA?

[riverking]

I've already loaded & used Tom Tom 3 on my PDA (loaded via Pc & Activesynch)
I would now like to load & use TT3 on my laptop for use in the motorhome (simply for the wide screen & memory) but if I put the TT3 disk into the laptop & load it, it seems to load the program into the PDA if connected.
If I disconnect the PDA whilst loading, TT3 simply says "Cannot connect to your device".
Is there a way round this - or can I connect (via usb & activesynch) my laptop to my pc and load as if my laptop was a PDA (if you see what I mean)??
Make it non tech please chaps.
Thanks in advance
Steve

 

[DrAlf]

Looked into running tom tom on a laptop a few months ago. Unfortunately it wasn’t possible and only ran on a PDA. However I’ve just done a search for PocketPC emulator and it looks like Microsoft have a free download. This means that you might be able to run the PDA emulator software on your laptop and then run Tom Tom in that. Needs a bit of a research first though – not the easiest solutions but it looks like it might be possible. Details here

 

[Rebel]

Cheers mate, I'm downloading now but seems slow - I'll let you know how I get on

 

[Telford]

A possible alternative (which I'm considering) is setting up a laptop with Linux and trying the TomTom "Go" version which runs a Linux kernel.

It's probably specific to PDA type hardware though - so an emulator is probably the only solution. I tried one as part of the MS development platform and they work well - bearing in mind that your still restricted to the same number of pixels, for the emulated PDA screen, as you are on the PDA itself!

 

[sven]

Try asking the question on the VFR Club website - I'm almost certain someone has a TT3 emulator programme for use on a laptop.

www.bikersoracle.com/vfr

 

[(RIP) Geriatric Germ]

Cheers mate, I'm downloading now but seems slow - I'll let you know how I get on

I thought, since I don't have a Laptop, I'd try the emulator on my PC, and with 576K broadband it's around 9 minutes for the UK english bit. Be interesting to see if I can use my IQUE 3600 on the monitor.

 

[DrAlf]

I thought, since I don't have a Laptop, I'd try the emulator on my PC, and with 576K broadband it's around 9 minutes for the UK english bit. Be interesting to see if I can use my IQUE 3600 on the monitor.

Well, it's a bit of a game getting the thing running. I messed around for a while on it last night and then gave up for the time being. Will have another crack at it later. As you've probably found out by now, it's not just a case of downloading the emulator program, you also need to download and install the pocketPC SDK. Found some good links though......

How to install the pocketPC Emulator software

 

[riverking]

Thanks Dr Alf, I too tried to sort it last night but gave up at 1 am after having spent hours downloading & unzipping files but then still getting TT3 saying it could not accesss my device (pda). I'll try again later, possibly with norton diabled because it kept interrupting the download. Using 576 Broadband too but seemed to take forever anyway.
By the way, if I answer as 'Rebel' don't be confused - it's the wifes connection that I use whilst my pc is busy.

Steve

 

[Muppet]

Well, it's a bit of a game getting the thing running. I messed around for a while on it last night and then gave up for the time being. Will have another crack at it later. As you've probably found out by now, it's not just a case of downloading the emulator program, you also need to download and install the pocketPC SDK. Found some good links though......

How to install the pocketPC Emulator software

Dr Alf, according to the link you posted here, you need to have something called Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003. This seems to be a programme costing in excess of 500 bucks!!! Or am I reading this whole thing wrong.

I've downloaded the three files as stated, but of course don't have the above. Here's the text to save anyone looking:

How to install the Pocket PC Emulator
I wrote this a while ago... I have been ask by many people on how to do it, hope it is helpful:

First, install Microsoft ActiveSync 3.7: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/resources/downloads/pocketpc/activesync37.mspx

Then, install the Pocket PC SDK 2003: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...14-0364-4623-9ede-0b5fbb133652&DisplayLang=en

Next, install the Pocket PC SDK 2003 Emulator Images: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...02-47a8-4ce4-9aa7-5fe85b95de72&DisplayLang=en

Next, install Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003:

If Visual Studio has been installed without the Smart Device Programmability option (and thus without the emulator files), you can update your installation using the following procedure.

To load emulator files if Visual Studio has been installed
1. In Windows Control Panel, click Add or Remove Programs.
2. Select your installation of Microsoft Visual Studio .NET, and then click Change/Remove.
3. In the Visual Studio .NET Setup wizard, click Visual Studio .NET.
4. On the Visual Studio .NET Maintenance page, click Add or Remove Features.
5. On the Visual Studio .NET Options page, select the Smart Device Programmability check box under either Visual Basic .NET or Visual C# .NET.
6. Click Update Now.

After the Visual Studio update is finished, install the emulator using either of the procedures in "Installing the Emulator" section.


Installing the Emulator
You must have Administrator permissions to install or remove the emulator. On some operating systems (for example, Windows Server 2003), you must accept the driver security certificate if prompted. To install the emulator by trying to connect to it:

1. On the Visual Studio Tools menu, click Connect to Device.
2. In the Connect to Device dialog box, click any emulator (for example, Pocket PC 2003 Emulator (Virtual Radio).
3. Click Connect.
4. If prompted to accept the emulator driver security certificate, click OK.
5. View the results on the screen. Installation is successful if:
6. The emulator appears.
7. The status bar in the IDE displays "Device Connected" or "Ready."

Installation is not successful if:

The screen displays "Emulator driver installation failed. Most common cause: user does not have administrator permissions."
The status bar displays "Emulator driver installation failed."

Am I reading this whole thing wrong? Had no problem d/loading all the files and they seemed to have installed OK, but I'm buggered if I can actually get anything to work. There desn't sem to be any .exe files to open, or any actual applications.

Not bloody simple is it?!

 

[bigkuri]

On pocket PC 2003 part of active sync lets you view the PDA on your PC screen - has to be connected though (sort of like a remote desktop). This will be at the same resolution as on PDA though. Easiest solution.

With regard to actual emmulation - you can run TT entirely from your PC, but only with hassle. It never works as good as on the PDA (this is a large part of my work).

Almost all emulators will still show TT at the "PDA resultion" though - the only reason to do this afterall is to ease development on the PDA app (hence the requirement for MS VS or similar devel environments).

Sorry to put a damper on the idea, but it really is not worth the hassle (just IMO of course!).

If you want route planning on PC then I'd suggest some alternative PC software - MS MapPoint is simple and good, and one of the cheapest regarding data licensing costs.

 

[Muppet]

Thanks for that Bigkuri, one reason why I wanted to run TT3 on the laptop is to plan out full blown itineraries for European trips, much easier on a big screen and mouse than small touchscreen and pointer. However, being a complete lazy arse today, I can't be bothered to go and fetch my PDA from the car, get the cradle from the desktop upstairs and stick it on my laptop to try it. Later in the week I think.

Apathy rules, O

 

[sven]

Thanks for that Bigkuri, one reason why I wanted to run TT3 on the laptop is to plan out full blown itineraries for European trips, much easier on a big screen and mouse than small touchscreen and pointer. However, being a complete lazy arse today, I can't be bothered to go and fetch my PDA from the car, get the cradle from the desktop upstairs and stick it on my laptop to try it. Later in the week I think.

Apathy rules, O

Me thinks you need CoPilot V, Clive - I don't think there are any"evaluation" copies available though

I planned all my routes for last years Austrian trip using the CoPilot desktop routeplanner (not as user friendly as Autoroute) and then transferred to my PDA along with the map data. Much easier than TT3.