tubes in tubeless tyres

[azitapiers]

Can anyone advise, I'm fitting TKC 80's for a trip to Morocoo can inner tubes be fitted , if so what size

 

[Timolgra]

We are using TKC 80's for our trip to Morocco. But carrying two pairs of tubes between 4 of us as a back up in case of a split tyre etc.
So, yes they can be fitted but I don't believe it's recommended. (But if you do it's probably better to use heavy duty tubes coated with talcom powder). Sorry I can't remember sizes off hand.

I'm using Ultraseal (for the first time) and carrying a Tyre Plugger repair kit. I'll also be taking a ratchet tie down should we need to re-seat a tyre on the rim.

Tim

 

[sorebums]

I've used tubes on my TKCs - including fuly loaded at motorway speeds - no problems.

Sizes 21 inch at the front and 17 at the back !!!! ;-)

I'm interested in how a ratchet tie down can help seat a tyre??????

Simon

 

[unhinged]

I got the GlobeRiders GS DVD and he uses the ratchet tie all the way around the tire and tightens it up, I guess to get an air tight seal. He then pumps it up with an electric pump if I remember rightly... I'll have another look this evening if I remember.

 

[laughingBob]

Having TKC80's fitted for my trip to Morocco also. Will be taking some HD tubes but, also some serious tyre levers.

 

[unhinged]

That DVD tells you about all of this stuff. Fixing punctures, changing tires (using little tire levers), using tubes when your tire's unrepairable... I'll be happy to lend it to people should they wish.

 

[Paul Narramore]

PM'd you.

 

[Steptoe]

I'm interested in how a ratchet tie down can help seat a tyre??????

Simon

You've obviously never had to fix a puncture/remove a tyre by the side of the road - it seats the bead in the rim, so you can inflate it with low pressure airpump or footpump ( if your lucky) . Also helps if you remove the inner core of the valve, it doesn't restrict/slowdown the initial burst of air you need to reseat the bead on the rim.

Also useful to have a G clamp, to break the bead . But not necessary on an oilhead, they're easy to get the tyre off, airheads can be trouble though .

 

[Greg Masters]

....use heavy duty tubes coated with talcom powder...
Tim

Try using powdered chalk - that way you won't have Morrocan blokes chasing after your bikes!



Greg

 

[sorebums]

You've obviously never had to fix a puncture/remove a tyre by the side of the road

Steptoe

LOL

'More than you've had hot baths' comes to mind

But you're never too old to learn new tricks and I could have benefited from the ratchet idea a few times.

Simon

 

[sorebums]

Like this time

with tubeless tyres in Mcleod Ganj in India

Had to fag all the way to the next village on Georgi'es Enfield to get to a compressor, cos the bicycle pump was not up to seating the tyre.

BTW did have tubes with me, just in case.

S

 

[Frank Warner]

Re: Like this time

Had to fag all the way to the next village on Georgi'es Enfield to get to a compressor,
BTW did have tubes with me, just in case.

Put tube in tyre and pump up with buicycle pump = inflated tyre ready to go and less ware on tyre compared to riding it flat!!!
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A tube in a tubless tyre will get the tyre a little warmer - berate the speed rating of the tyre and you should be fine.

 

[sorebums]

Re: Re: Like this time

Put tube in tyre and pump up with buicycle pump = inflated tyre ready to go

Damn, why didn't I think of that?


Simon

 

[mavis cruet]

a word of warning in the same area. dont use rimlocks with the tubes. they dont work on those rims, and if you have normal (ie quite high) pressures the rimlocks pop yer tyres...... even heavy duty ones.

ps michelin now do super heavy duty tubes (4mm). not sure if you can get 17 inchers though. or use one tube inside another.

 

[Cameron]

I outsmarted myself by using tubes in tubeless tires...
on an Alaska trip I put tubes in the tires thinking it would be easier to repair a tube in the event of a flat...

The tube exploded in the tire with a rock puncture, and became totally useless...
I then had to break the bead(easily done with the sidestand) and remove the tube.

The trouble began with trying to use the ruined tubes valve stem to seal the valve hole in the rim... we cut out the valve stem with a little rubber around it and with a couple of plugs soaked in glue under the valve stem nut sort of sealed the hole...

The next dilema was reseating the bead of the tubeless tire.
No amount of pressure from straps around the tire would seat the bead, even with a couple of quick repair CO2 gas cartridges, and a hand pump "cannot" deliver enough volume.

Finally my buddy rode off with the wheel and found someone down the road with a compressor, even then they had a very tough time to seat the bead... but they did and we limped home.

I have since found it much easier to use plugs to repair a punture on tubeless tires even with large rock tears in the rubber(just use more plugs and wait (alot) longer for them to dry before airing up)
and for shorter trips in rugged remote country I sometimes carry a spare tube (very bulky) which theoretically could be used in a ruined or unpluggable tire...

And finally, a new tube of glue is far,far better than the ten year old hard one that is in your tire repair kit....