what a shite day..filled the bike up with diesel

....whilst sat next to the BMW recovery man the other day ( puncture to big to plug ) he told me about a recovery of a brand new K1600 filled with diesel and took to a BMW dealer.

Visiting the dealer again he asks how they got on with the K1600 and was told it needed a brand new engine!
 
cheers everyone, my dads still very poorly ..kidney trouble, hes 86 and never been ill in all his life, made a slight improvement today, should get the test results back tom
 
Wreford Miles said:
....whilst sat next to the BMW recovery man the other day ( puncture to big to plug ) he told me about a recovery of a brand new K1600 filled with diesel and took to a BMW dealer.

Visiting the dealer again he asks how they got on with the K1600 and was told it needed a brand new engine!
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the same recovery driver picked me up yesterday! the K1600 in question was a one day old, the notts dealer told the owner it had semi siezed:rolleyes: he got a bill for 12k how can diesel seize an engine?
 
skid06 said:
the same recovery driver picked me up yesterday! the K1600 in question was a one day old, the notts dealer told the owner it had semi siezed:rolleyes: he got a bill for 12k how can diesel seize an engine?
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I'm sceptical. JJH
 
skid06 said:
how can diesel seize an engine?
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Hydraulic lock, I suspect. I'd also guess it might be more common on multi cylinder engines with relatively small combustion chambers where a small amount of uncompressable fluid might lead to a bent conrod and a locked-up piston in the bore. A friend of mine put almost a full tank of diesel in his Ducati ST4S and got a few hundred yards up the road before it died. However, he pumped it out and refilled it with petrol and it ran ok. Big twins might just be less susceptible.
 
It's scrap, I'll give ya £500 for it




On the other hand i hope your old man makes a speedy recovery.
 
Hope dad gets better. Did the same and drained the diesel by syphon and put it in my car! Re-filled with petrol and still couldnt start. Bought a tin of Easy Start and sprayed it into the airbox. Bike started, coughed and ran very rough with loads of smoke then stalled again. Repeated the process with the Easy Start and off I went.
Took a few tanks of good petrol to really clear properly.
Easy Start is like rocket fuel - doesn't need much! I dont have the balls to start my barbie with it!
 
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If you need any help Steve, I'll come to yours strip bike and get it going for you, all you need to do is feed me choccy biscuits and tea.
 
Schtum said:
Hydraulic lock, I suspect. I'd also guess it might be more common on multi cylinder engines with relatively small combustion chambers where a small amount of uncompressable fluid might lead to a bent conrod and a locked-up piston in the bore. A friend of mine put almost a full tank of diesel in his Ducati ST4S and got a few hundred yards up the road before it died. However, he pumped it out and refilled it with petrol and it ran ok. Big twins might just be less susceptible.
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I can't see how hydrolic lock would happen. JJH
 
I'm guessing that a cylinder gets diesel in it which it cant ignite and can't compress as the engine still tries to turn over - bent everything. I take it that if the bike just stops this won't happen?
 
Ozz said:
I'm guessing that a cylinder gets diesel in it which it cant ignite and can't compress as the engine still tries to turn over - bent everything. I take it that if the bike just stops this won't happen?
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Hydraulic lock is a very distant possibility - the exhaust valves still open on turning over, any excess would be sent out through the exhaust. It would take an age(if ever) to get enough diesel in to have sufficient to cause a lock
 
Was at my local dealer last week and they had a K1600 sitting there with exactly the same problem. They drained the tank and flushed it through and it was fine. Sounds questionable to me that a new engine was needed on the other bike :nenau
 
Bike Sorted !! ..some kind bod bought me a cheapo syphon kit from TK Max and delivered it to my stepmums so i could collect it our way back from hospital after seeing dad..it worked a treat as well, syphoned the fuel from bike into a gerry can (it filled it exactly to the brim, 19L i think) then put 5L of petrol in bike syphoned it out, ill use it in lawn mower, put another 5L in bike, removed air filter and kept squirting ezi start down the inlets and it burst into life, i revved it at one point and it backfired through the inlets and i had a nice little fire going:blast took it a run after filling up and it seems fine:beerjug:
thanks for the advice and very kind offers of help
 
Glad the op got it sorted out .

Ive never seen a petrol engine destroyed by putting diesel in it,I don't see how you could get enough in to hydraulic lock. diesel wont burn in the cylinder,but will get blown out the exhaust.
Seen quite a few modern diesels with wrecked fuel systems because of putting in petrol, the lack of lube in petrol causes the high pressure pumps to self destruct.

I have access to large amount of petrol, diesel mix, from miss fuels,If its a very week amount of diesel I run it in my bikes.
One gallon of what is usually 10% diesel ,3 gallons of fresh petrol.Nowt better than free fuel.
 
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