Whitehawk TY 175.

[earthmover]

Didn't know whether to put this here, or in "Classics".
Having done quite a few of the Classic trials with Tim last year, but on my modern Beta, I decided to get something more in keeping. The old Brit iron looks and sounds fantastic, but I didn't want to go quite so far back. Late 70's to early 80's two stroke twinshocks were what I lusted after in my youth, so that was the plan. Perusing fleabay, and picking brains gave me a budget, and a couple of alternatives, Telford show gave me the shop window.
This is what I came away with:

There were some lovely old bikes there, but this one ticked all the boxes.

Skinny, isn't it?

Tim's Fantic for comparison.

Yes, I'm just about to fall off!

Tim giving me some instruction.

Oops, this was a bad move.....

Denise telling me how much she likes this one.

Mark

 

[Magwa]

I had several TY's in the day, great machines you need to modify (weld) up the kickstart quadrant before it 'slips' and you punch a hole in the clutch cover / casing

PS if you get 'bored' with it ...............( it will be a long time ahead) drop me a PM I'm drooling here ;-)

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

I had several TY's in the day, great machines you need to modify (weld) up the kickstart quadrant before it 'slips' and you punch a hole in the clutch cover / casing

 

[earthmover]

I had several TY's in the day, great machines you need to modify (weld) up the kickstart quadrant before it 'slips' and you punch a hole in the clutch cover / casing

Yes, and despite knowing this, I tried kicking it over in my slippers and did just that.
Thankfully not all the way through, hence the ad in the "wanted" section!
Mark

 

[Magwa]

Yes, and despite knowing this, I tried kicking it over in my slippers and did just that.
Thankfully not all the way through, hence the ad in the "wanted" section!
Mark

Lumiweld to fix the casing works ( I know)
you need to get the steel quadrant welded / to the splined shaft where it 'slips' as they say
'They all do that sir'.
If you manage to get a new quadrant it will slip in time so best welding gun forward
good luck

 

[Timolgra]

Gorgeous bike Mark, just a few things to sort on the suspension etc. and you'll be back into single figures on the Clubman route......whilst I on the other hand

I have posted this one from yesterday elsewhere but here you go

Get that top yoke sorted before you end up on your arse, it sure comes up easy even on the ice

A bit icy for a first ride.

 

[Giles]

Never done it, but can absolutely 10% see the attraction ... Looks great

 

[Vern]

Don't you dare put that Lumiweld shite on it

 

[Giles]

Never done it, but can absolutely 10% see the attraction ... Looks great

100%

 

[Timolgra]

Don't you dare put that Lumiweld shite on it

I think you may have a visitor soon

 

[earthmover]

Don't you dare put that Lumiweld shite on it

As if I would? Will see what comes of a phone call this afternoon, but sooner or later it will be entrusted to your gentle ministrations.
Having seen that side on photo Tim, I realise I've found a bike that makes me look tall.
Mark

 

[Vern]

Now all you need is a woman to make you look tall

 

[MattW]

Brilliant

 

[HR0]

wales 29.1.12 faces of concentration

in real competition these are the lads faces of concentration

Great new bike mark.

gotta be better than that banana shaped thing

good move

and pics in the post

H

 

[Timolgra]

Just back from a brilliant Classic/Twinshock trial, Mark would have loved it on his new bike.............but he was child minding elsewhere

 

[FERRET]

Nice to see you have moved upto the clubman route, looks like u did well, unfortunatley i had to work so could not make it, hopefully be at next months trial.

 

[Timolgra]

Dropped a daft 17 today Ferret

The next one is with Gresford Classic which used to be Border Classics on the 26th Feb Hopefully Mark's bike will get it's first proper outing....pending no child minding.
http://www.gresfordclassictrials.co.uk/events.php

 

[earthmover]

Mark's bike will get it's first proper outing.

I certainly hope so, working on the suspension at the moment, may have to get some practice in this weekend though. Have you finished decorating yet...............
Mark

 

[earthmover]

A quick update on the Whitehawk:
When I bought it, so many people at the show commented at what a "bargain" I'd got, I began to wonder if I had bought a lemon. There were a few obvious faults that needed fixing, and a few more have come to light since. Nothing that can't be fixed though, with a little help from TrialsCentral.com, friends (JohnnyBoxer, Timolgra, Vern, Rob), and knowlegeable dealers (Ian Pebery, TYtrials).

First I fitted a new folding tip gear lever, and a gear change shaft repair kit. There was no o-ring in the old one, and one stripped bolt hole. A tab washer was needed on the gearbox sprocket. The fuel tap and the carb were stripped and cleaned, and an in-line filter added.

A sidestand was added, and the Betor shock springs changed to 40lb ones.

Ian Pebery provided me with a replacement clutch casing (the old one has now been properly welded as a spare, thanks Vern ). I've extended the upright part of the brake pedal upwards, and added a "stop" rather than allow the pedal to rattle against the bottom of the clutch case. The kickstart shaft has been replaced, and a blob of weld on the kickstart knuckle has put the lever perpendicular to the ground again.

The forks required the most work. The sliders are quite badly pitted, both above and below the seals, and I'm not sure these forks have ever seen a service! The top caps were very tight, but had no spanner marks on them. The springs and spacers were rusty, the oil was milky sludge, but worst of all, the right wouldn't go down the last two inches of travel, and jammed if tried. The slider would go all the way down in the left leg, so it wasn't that, but looking down the bore of the right leg showed nothing obvious. Working on the "what's the worst that could happen?" theory, we honed the bottom of the leg with emery tape wrapped round a dowel in an electric drill until the slider went all the way. Both of the sliders were then degreased, the pitted areas gently cleaned with a brass brush on a Dremel, then filled with Areldite. 24 hrs later I carefully rubbed them down and then polished them smooth. A thorough clean of all the internals, new seals, and 130ml of 10w oil and we have full travel, and about the best action I think we'll get with stock springs. I'll ride it like this for a while and see what happens.

I bought an old top yoke off flea-bay, and had the original handlebar mounts machined off (Vern again), so I could move the bars forward. This has only had a brief test ride at the moment, but seems to help greatly in keeping the front wheel down! The billet ones look great, but I can't justify spending that much just yet. I'm really looking forward to getting a few trials under it's belt now!
Cheers
Mark

 

[MattW]

Looking great Mark