YAMAHA XT1200Z SUPER TÉNÉRÉ LAUNCHED

[Rabbitson]

Specifications:

ENGINE
Type: Liquid-cooled, 4-stroke, DOHC, inline 2-cylinder, 4-valve, fuel injected, twin spark engine
Displacement: 1199cc
Bore x stroke: 98 x 79.5 mm
Compression ratio: 11.0:1
Firing intervals: 270- and 450-degree points
Max. Power: 80.9kW (110PS) @7,250rpm
Max. Torque: 114.1 Nm (11.6kgf･m) @6000 r/min
Lubrication system: Dry sump, oil tank in crankcase
Fuel supply system: Fuel injection
Ignition system: Twin spark
Starter system: Electric
Transmission system: Constant mesh, 6-speed
Throttle system: Yamaha Chip-Controlled Throttle (YCC-T)
Yamaha D-MODE: 2 modes, Sport (S) and Touring (T)
Traction control: 3 modes, TCS1, TCS2 and OFF
Exhaust System: 2-into-1

CHASSIS
Front suspension: Upside-down telescopic fork, 43 mm inner tube, adjustable preload, compression and rebound damping
Front wheel travel: 190 mm
Rear suspension: Monoshock, adjustable preload and rebound damping
Rear wheel travel: 190 mm
Front brake: Twin 310 mm wave discs, ABS/Unified Brake System
Rear brake: Single 282 mm wave disc
Front tyre: 110/80/19
Rear tyre: 150/70/17

DIMENSIONS
Overall length: 2,250 mm
Overall width: 980 mm
Overall height: MIN：1,410 mm / MAX：1,440 mm
Seat height: Adjustable 835-860 mm
Wheelbase: 1,540 mm
Min. ground clearance: 205 mm
Wet weight: 261kg (includes full oil and fuel tank)
Fuel capacity: 22 litres

 

[Budweiser]

Looks fine to me. Will wait to see how she rides, more important than looks IMO

 

[Possu]

It depends on your view of a failure?

Varadero: May be heavier and ugly (like GS) but the FI version is a very good trailie-style tourer. Did a lot of miles around EU in comfort with good weather protection and Honda reliability.

TDM: It's only a "failure" in a UK obsessed with sports bikes. There's plenty of them in just about every other EU country. You need to try a TDM900 before discounting them. They are a very good all round machine. This the bike that BMW copied for the F range of 800 twins.

Tiger: The new 1050 does what it says in the ad "Urban Sports". It's not a new version of the old Tiger. It's a trailie style street-fighter with a fantastic engine. Can't agree with "failure"

Capanord: Ever ridden one? Suprisingly good. Meaty engine that will blow away any GS motor. Very comfy but a bit old fashioned. This may be the only one I'd agree with as a failure, but again only in UK.

Take off the rose-tinted glasses and the GS isn't perfect

Try reading both my previous posts in this thread, I've not mentioned the word "failure" or any of the other bikes you listed with the exception of the Varadero which I still think the Tenere resembles - just my opinion.

FYI I have ridden Capo's, Tigers, TDM's & F800GS. Just because the F800GS is a parallel twin, that doesn't make it a copy of the TDM.

I'm the last person to wear rose tinted glasses, I'm fully aware of the issues affecting all of the bikes I own (1150GS, 950SE & 400EXC).

 

[BLUEJAY]

Great expectations over this bike......"king of the desert....bla bla".

I was too hoping to see something in between the F800GS and KTM Adventure.

IMHO, this resembles the old Varadero with a "GS wannabe" attitude.


My wallet would like to thank Yamaha ...no risk

Then, of course, it should be test ridden.

I am not trying to say the bike would be crap (as a matter of fact, it'll probably run well and be very reliable...), but when I look at it I've got noo feeling and my heartbeat does not move....

 

[longdog]

That's only 5 kilos more than GSA according to BMW-Motorrad site

The weight for the Yamaha is inclusive of water, all oils and 23 litres of unleaded, i.e. ready to roll.

 

[longdog]

It depends on your view of a failure?

Varadero: May be heavier and ugly (like GS) but the FI version is a very good trailie-style tourer. Did a lot of miles around EU in comfort with good weather protection and Honda reliability.

TDM: It's only a "failure" in a UK obsessed with sports bikes. There's plenty of them in just about every other EU country. You need to try a TDM900 before discounting them. They are a very good all round machine. This the bike that BMW copied for the F range of 800 twins.

Tiger: The new 1050 does what it says in the ad "Urban Sports". It's not a new version of the old Tiger. It's a trailie style street-fighter with a fantastic engine. Can't agree with "failure"

Capanord: Ever ridden one? Suprisingly good. Meaty engine that will blow away any GS motor. Very comfy but a bit old fashioned. This may be the only one I'd agree with as a failure, but again only in UK.

Take off the rose-tinted glasses and the GS isn't perfect

I agree 100%

Of course, the downside is that being a Yamaha, it probably won't suffer from fuel pump faults, ring antenna issues or final drive failures. So that's a big black mark for the Yam, no character whatsoever!!!!

 

[Montrose Sun]

I think it looks awesome in blue with 3 box luggage but the very first thing i saw was indeed a varadero - but it does look miles better than the 'dero.

 

[Arsey]

Just looks a bit fat and lardy and who put the spots on ? Halfords

Sounds perfect for you then Chris !!!

 

[sockpuppet]

Feck me. £13.5k on a bike.

I wouldn't spend that on a BMW let alone a frikking plastic fantastic Yamaha. BMs hold thier value so people don't mind coughing up for one. Yamahas don't really as they change then every year.

 

[karlp]

The weight for the Yamaha is inclusive of water, all oils and 23 litres of unleaded, i.e. ready to roll.

The BM has all this AND 31 litres of fuel - ready to roll - well ok no water so the YAM is still heavier

 

[Invicta Moto]

If only they had used a detuned R1 engine.......

 

[retroman]

I recall that the Fazer 1000 appeared at a ridiclous price at its launch ... £8k in about 2002? Madness.

£13k for a Yamaha? I think NOT.

 

[Mr K]

It looks a little better today.... the "clocks" are nice...

 

[sycomoto]

yes but

That's only 5 kilos more than GSA according to BMW-Motorrad site

thats a gsa carrying 400miles worth of fuel

 

[sycomoto]

having looked a little closer my view is

for..... the clocks are nice n it looks comfy enough

against....... for an adventure bike theres far to many crap traps and a stripdown every time you want to clean it is a pain. important bits like the rad and electrics look rather vunrable behind the side panels. the wheels have some double rib idea so it can use tubeless tyres but the downside is they would fill with crap an rust like crap. plus a big lump of dirt will do ye wheel balance no good at all. some of the pipes and tubes look vunarable and a plastic sump guard is as much use as well a plastic sump guard. just think by the time touratat has designed and made the parts and mr plumb gets off his arse and posts them out to you the thing will be 2 years old.
nope imho its not a bike to give the gs/gsa or ktm adventure a run its deffo more varadilldo/multistadle wanabee.

 

[Possu]

nope imho its not a bike to give the gs/gsa or ktm adventure a run its deffo more varadilldo/multistadle wanabee.

Nailed in one.

I was hoping for a twin cylinder version of the 660 on Steroids, instead we get this bloated imitation of what could have been a contender.

I'm sure it will make a great roadbike but too vulnerable to take offroad. Having some knowledge of the bike trade, I don;t the residual values will be that great in 12-18 months time, it's not as if the 660's hold their value & they're a better bike IMO.

 

[cherokee]

Tenere

Iv owned a few Teneres,600 single and two super tenere 750s,the later bikes were great,half an exup engine,5 valve heads they were well built and quick,untill you see the new one in the flesh and it gets ridden its hard to know how it compares,but reading the posts about weight etc im abit mistified,most here tour on their GSs as i do on my 990,the weight as far as i see it is gonna make for a solid sure footed ride on the road,and lol GS and light are two words you'd not expect to hear in the same sentance,build quality,and reliability are certainly gonna be a +.Saying that not sure if id change my 990 for one but i think they'll sell a few.....

 

[(RIP) Kaister]

no-one really liked the 1200 when it first appeared either.

 

[Account removed]

Not sure if I like it or not, could look a lot better with a beak like a GS.

 

[Mr K]

no-one really liked the 1200 when it first appeared either.

Beg to differ.