Scotts damper for 950 SE

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Any of you SE boys got the Scotts damper/top triple clamp installed like wot this is :

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Am just toying with it at the mo.

Haven't taken the SE offroad in anger yet but all the Advrider boys swear by this damper.
 
I have one fitted to my 640, without the sexy triple clamps, but functional all the same. Stops the shimmy from knobblies on tarmac, and the scary headshake on fast off road stuff. Doesn't seem to effect the slow speed steering at all (when set up correctly :augie :eek: )
This is the first bike I have ever felt the need to have a damper on, and if the bigger bikes share similar geometry I would recomend one.
Mark
 
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Knew I had a picture somewhere.
Mark
 
Lot of money to spend on something that might not be required...

All of Marks comments are spot on the damper works to correct high speed head shake ect...Offroad Mark is a very fast rider who rides a lot of the UK rallies the only type of offroad event in the UK you would get up to speeds where the bike would start to get out of shape:thumb2

Or if you put 17" supermoto wheels on they suffer a bit ...For trail riding and general road work the damper would be a waste of money...

The Yanks have miles and miles of fast unsurfaced trails to ride on we don't :nenau
 
Good points !!

I think I'll wait until I've trashed it offroad and see how shite I am before going down that route.

Still tempted by the Safari tank though !!
 
You'll have to bring the bike over one weekend for some trail riding ...:thumb2

Still a lot going on in the Derbyshire Peaks and north Wales ...:clap
 
I agree, ive been trail riding the SE for 2 years, both in wales, and the faster hard packed trails of Herfordshire and never felt the need for a damper.

the only time I got a head shake was racing mr tickle an hp2 at about 110 on a wet straight road in wales. ;)
 
You'll have to bring the bike over one weekend for some trail riding ...:thumb2

Still a lot going on in the Derbyshire Peaks and north Wales ...:clap

I'd love too at some point !!

I need to put the Karoos back on and use it properly.

In the meantime it's great for belting round the back roads over here.

I'm picking up a Black Dog skid plate over the weekend and I think I'll leave the fiddling at that for now.

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I'm booked on the Llangollen weekend next May so it would be nice to try and get to play off road before then at some point.
 
I agree, ive been trail riding the SE for 2 years, both in wales, and the faster hard packed trails of Herfordshire and never felt the need for a damper.

the only time I got a head shake was racing mr tickle an hp2 at about 110 on a wet straight road in wales. ;)

When I got the 640, I was under the impression that the geometry wasn't as steep as the EXC models, therefore the headshake that a lot of KTM riders had complained of wouldn't be an issue. I have had two Husabergs and never had a hint of any problem, and thought that dampers were unnecessary. Imagine my surprise ( :eek shock, horror, spincter clenching etc. :eek) when blatting along a fairly bumpy straight track, I wound the throttle off for a particularly big hole and the bars started going from side to side in a most alarming fashion. Bear in mind that just before this I had been travelling in excess of the national speed limit and you get a picture of how I felt! :eek:
Once my arse had let go of my jeans :augie, I pondered what had caused it, and then (stupidly) tried to replicate the problem. Of course, because I was ready for it, it wouldn't happen. :blast
A couple of weeks later, during the Rydale, it happened again. This time I was able to accelerate back out of it (as I had been told to do) but that was enough for me to investigate types and cost of dampers. Apparently a good suspension expert can "tune out" the tendency for headshake, but further advantages of a damper were found during my trawling of th'interweb, ie less kick back from rocky trails, reduced rider fatigue in sand or muddy conditions, and these swung it for me.
It's still a lot of money for something that you shouldn't really need, but that can be applied to most things in my garage. :D
Mark
 
As the sum total of my offroad skills can be summed up as a total of about 6 mx 'races' in the Enduro section on an EXC450 and then a couple of years mucking around on the beach on an EXC250F (plus 2 days in the mud in Brittany-as per pic below),I think having/not having a damper will make fcuk all difference to my 'ability' when I get to properly play on the SE.

I'm assuming that the offroad ride on the Llangollen weekend next May will be fairly achievable,as there'll be a number of old farts on GS12s.

I'll certainly give it a bash.

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If you are interested I've got a very, very good conditon Scotts damper gathering dust in my garage. All you need is the fitting kit for your bike, available direct from Scotts.
 
i've got scotts on my 525 and SE,its saved me several times,one time on the SE in deep sand in Holland i had a big lock to lock tankslapper but it was kind of in slow motion and controllable,i remember a time in a race in wales on a 300 before i had a damper fitted i had a tankslapper in 4th or 5th so violent is shook my feet of the pegs and one of my hands off the bars it must have looked like i was having a fit how i never came off was beyond me:confused:the guy behind me even asked me if i was ok cos it scared him!!

i would not bother buying one unless you do a lot of offroad but for me it's been the difference between crashing and just crapping it:eek:


loz
BTW we paid $670US with the topyoke
 
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Great quality.

Just got to get it in my suitcase now !!!
 
Does the wooden handle bolt into the two holes on the right of the picture ? Seems a long way to go and a lot of effort for a new coal shovel :augie
 
Very well made the stock one is shite :thumb2


I got £50 import duty on mine the b*****ds :spitfire
 

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Pipster are you heading to the Cambrian only I wouldn't mind having a closer look at that bash plate, I should have looked at it in yorkshire, only I did in the clutch cover on mine Sunday:eek:, doubt if the bash plate would have saved it but it just reminded me how frail they are:(
 
Fitted a Black Dog to mine about 3 weeks ago & then broke my collarbone, not ridden it since. :blast

I've not used the shim type washers that come with it but might do as there was a gap where it bolts up on to the oil tank.

Loz had a plate welded to his, stands vertically & protects the clutch cover. Rather than weld mine, I'm thinking of cutting out circular pieces of 3mm thick aluminium & sticking them to the clutch & ignition covers with silicon sealant a la DRZ. Won't be pretty but if saves a holed cover, it'll be worth it.
 
Pipster are you heading to the Cambrian only I wouldn't mind having a closer look at that bash plate, I should have looked at it in yorkshire, only I did in the clutch cover on mine Sunday:eek:, doubt if the bash plate would have saved it but it just reminded me how frail they are:(

Sorry can't make this one :(

Always out and about in the peaks if you want to see one in the flesh...:thumb2

You wont find a better aftermarket bash plate for the SE well pleased with mine apart from import dutie...there loads of threads on ADV rider on this subject seems the Blackdog plate is the one :thumb2 email Kurt he's a great guy very helpfull...http://blackdogcycleworks.com/other.html
 


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