You have no idea how much I can drink, so offering to fill me with beer is not always a good plan, it could prove to be very expensive? Tell me where about you are and we can sort somthing out. I use a Remus centre box, which has the nice legal numbers on it, and they seem to be fairly well made(mine had done about 90000miles when I chopped it up to make the pipe for mine, and was still good and sound then) as for the sound, it's about as good as it get's for a twin in my books, not deafening and by no means quiet, just a nice mix. I still haven't fixed a price yet, 'cos I've got loads to do with the panniers, but I know I've got enough pipe and bends and stuff to make maybe two more systems ( I over ordered a little bit) give me a bell and we'll sort something out. 01905 612705 correct phone number now!