Laverda: which is the easiest triple to own?

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Jotas are the real deal but good ones cost an arm and a leg nowadays. The Mirage looks good as does the RGS. 120 or 180 is a bit confusing?
Is there such a thing as a reliable Laverda triple that just need regular oil changes and valves checked maintainance?
 
Not a triple but the SF2 was my favourite:)
 
i've ridden them all when they were new, and my favourite was the basic 1200 (not the mirage). it had the go of the jota, but wasn't so hard core.

the RGA is a good bike too. more civilised as it is 120° and less vibey. the handling is a little less brute force and ignorance too. generally more modern.

obviously you can get 120° jota's but they don't have the classic looks of the original.
 
Dont know about easy to own but my friend has just bought this beauty
Replica of the 1972 Endurance racer SFC 1000

Bought it for the trip to the TT we are doing this year

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Is there such a thing as a reliable Laverda triple that just need regular oil changes and valves checked maintainance?

I had a Jota from 1983ish up till 1988. Used to ride it to the bol D'or in one hit many times, and never had any problems with it over approx 30K miles.
Only annoying thing was no side stand.
While camping in the south of france and after a heavy thunder storm the stand sunk into the soft ground and the bike fell a couple of inches away from head as i lay asleep.

Battery died, but nothing to do with the bike, and i bought a spare clutch cable as they have a reputation for breaking them.
It was still under the seat unused when i sold the bike in 1988, for £1600 :D.
In fact i tell a lie, it wasn't under the seat when i sold it. It's still here in a bag along with the Tim Parker laverda workshop manual.
 
i've ridden them all when they were new, and my favourite was the basic 1200 (not the mirage). it had the go of the jota, but wasn't so hard core.

Away with you soft lad! The 1200 was never as quick as the Jota. Buy a 1200 and you'll always have Jota envy :D

I rode Laverdas for the best part of 15 years. Mainly a Jota but a couple of 750's as well. Had a few friends with all the various models over the years (including the slower 1200's)

The early triples upto 78 had electrical gremlins with the ignitions (will all have been sorted by now) and used to crack the cylinder heads near the camchain tunnel and occasionally the combustion chambers. in 79 (78 for the 1200) they moved to the laid down shocks. In 79 they had the Marzocchi forks as well instead of the cerianis. This gave a much better ride.

To get round the cylinder head cracking issue they installed a skull into the combustion chamber but a lot of these sunk into the head loosing the valve clearances. These bikes were known as sinkers.

There was also a major problem with the main bearings breaking up (they switched them to C3 clearance bearings) most were done under warranty but a few slipped through - these bikes were known as crankers.

The quickest bikes were the 1980/81 machines. Lovely quick things with a real power band. They had a sticker under the seat saying "5 Star fuel only" this was a real issue even in the early 80's. After 81 they went all soft, lower compression, smaller valves and were very neutered compared to the earlier machines but were more reliable and easier to live with. the last 180's also had a hydraulic clutch fitted. Most of the softer bikes had painted front mudguards instead of stainless.

The 120° crank machines were much more civilised and easier to ride and live with.

Are you bored yet? :D

The main weak spot was the cam bearings, these are plain bearings that sit in the heads, the oil system only has a mesh filter and the bikes needed the oil changing frequently. I changed mine every 1000 miles and it was £12 or £13 a litre in the 80's.

Joking with cookie aside the 1200 is a much easier bike to live with than the Jota and the flat bars make for a really nice riding position. but it hasn't got the jota power band or rasp despite, in the mirages case, of having the same cam.

750's are massively over engineered and run to huge mileages. They use the same gearbox, clutch, conrods etc as the triples but have hugh bearings on everything. fecking heavy old lumps though.


I feel inspired to post a picture or two (no groaning at the back).

my Jota. The black downpipes and cast side panel badge mark it as a 79/80 bike. Non standard fork brace and front mudguard.

Jota4.jpg


one of my 750's. It's a 1973 750SF2 with Jota swinging arm, wheels, rear disk fitted.

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Only annoying thing was no side stand.

I've seen a couple with them fitted...precarious doesn't cover it, especially if you have the ducati style self folding ones. You'd spend ages shaking the bike, rocking it and checking it was secure only to a "click" followed by the noise of the bike hitting the ground as soon as you turned your back :D
 
I had a Jota from 1983ish up till 1988. Used to ride it to the bol D'or in one hit many times, and never had any problems with it over approx 30K miles.
Only annoying thing was no side stand.
While camping in the south of france and after a heavy thunder storm the stand sunk into the soft ground and the bike fell a couple of inches away from head as i lay asleep.

Battery died, but nothing to do with the bike, and i bought a spare clutch cable as they have a reputation for breaking them.
It was still under the seat unused when i sold the bike in 1988, for £1600 :D.
In fact i tell a lie, it wasn't under the seat when i sold it. It's still here in a bag along with the Tim Parker laverda workshop manual.

Did you know Hamish Renfrew of the Laverda owners club ? Think he had an early 3C.
 
I've always wanted one but the 180 Jotas are really silly money now IMO.

All I know is a mates 1200 Mirage wasn't as fast as my Mk2 Le Mans on the straight after Creg-Ny-Baa and another mates Jota wasn't as fast as expected - coming back from Le Mans seemed about the same as the LM11.

I thought I'd heard that the 1200s have a weak crank. Certainly Mirage owning mate had troubles with his.
 
Always loved the black Corsa, but did have a blast on the red SFC1000. My wife took this only picture of me on it all those years ago and took it out of focus nearly caused a divorce :mad:

SFC1000.jpg
 
Jotas are the real deal but good ones cost an arm and a leg nowadays. The Mirage looks good as does the RGS. 120 or 180 is a bit confusing?
Is there such a thing as a reliable Laverda triple that just need regular oil changes and valves checked maintainance?



Yes, years ago I had a Jota 120.....the noise is addictive:D

Electrics and oil, I put Castrol in mine and apparently then it was a no-no:confused: Pitted the cams. Apart from that no problems. Usual italian electrics but better than mates Guzzi and Ducs
Make sure you ride one, they are top heavy
 
I had the RGS Y reg when they were current,, (cost was £4250 if I remember right)with the race pipe...
A friend who is now no longer with us asked me if I had stopped on the way home from work(finished night shift so 6.00am)
one morning, I had stopped to get a newspaper... I said yes why,,, he told me he could here my bike from his home,
had heard it stop for a few minutes and then start up again and finish my trip...
He lived about 3miles away..


Richard Slater is still selling them in Bromyard which is only a few miles from me..
 
rode it from the lake district one weekend and ragged the arse off it and got 15mpg when I checked... wore the front and rear tyres out in 1500miles...
I've calmed down now.
 
rode it from the lake district one weekend and ragged the arse off it and got 15mpg when I checked... wore the front and rear tyres out in 1500miles...
I've calmed down now.

Mine did around the same MPG when you gave it some.

I'd forgotten about the tyre wear. I remember running my hand under the mudguard after a run out and feeling all the rubber stuck underneath. the old pirelli phantoms didn't last 5 minutes. I wore a rear out one bank holiday weekend - 4 days riding :eek:
 
I remember having a scary moment when I was in a bend and the centre stand dug into the road and lifted the rear wheel off the ground.
Luckily I was going up hill on the bends where you have two lanes one side going up and a single lane on the downhill side, so what would have been a trip onto the wrong side of the road was just a trip into the outside lane of my carriageway.
 
Jotas are the real deal but good ones cost an arm and a leg nowadays. The Mirage looks good as does the RGS. 120 or 180 is a bit confusing?
Is there such a thing as a reliable Laverda triple that just need regular oil changes and valves checked maintainance?

Have you had a look round locally to you?
If I get a chance I'll try and have a look at Slaters and see what is in there either this or next weekend..
 


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