routing to south of france

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Hi All

thinking of going to south of france two years time cruising next year and wondered if anyone has travelled from dieppe to say nice, monte carlo area and which route they took avoiding motorways toll roads

planning on travelling for two days arriving on the third stopping at F1's on the way down and back

thanks in advance

eon
 
Use the via Michelin website's map, asking it to exclude toll roads.

You can ask it to include 'sightseeing' and 'hotel suggestions', too.

http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/web/Routes

Job done.

PS Love the forward planning :thumb If 'thinking about' can be described as planning.

PPS. How is the pannier polishing going?
 
The pannier cleaning is on hold until i pick up the new bike as they have to go in with the old one to get the locks changed for the new one so no point doing them before hand

thinking about comes from my cousin stating that he wanted to tour scotland in two years time to him phoning me and saying that his wife now wants to go somewhere with guaranteed heat like the south of france so now are thinking of south of france but could all change as we all know what SWMBO is like with changing the mind:JB

and am i correct in thinking that the D roads are back roads the E roads are motorway and N roads like our duel carriageways and toll roads can be anything the french wish them to be
 
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As mr wapping says above, viamichelin is your friend but you could do worse than the route napoleon.

Good luck with the planning.


Mike
 
I wouldn't go into too much detailed planning just yet........

Whole continents can shift in two years and roads/villages can just disappear.
 
Steptoe said:
I wouldn't go into too much detailed planning just yet........

Whole continents can shift in two years and roads/villages can just disappear.
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or washed away even

plan b then put bike on plane and go to the good old US of A
 
seadog said:
As mr wapping says above, viamichelin is your friend but you could do worse than the route napoleon.

Good luck with the planning.


Mike
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thanks mike looks like you are from the same neck of the woods as me
 
eonbkuk said:
thanks mike looks like you are from the same neck of the woods as me
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Looks like it, just by the marina in Brighton.

I rode the Alpes maritimes in August (tail end of route napoleon) and would say they are a must for you to do on the way down!



Mike
 
eonbkuk said:
The pannier cleaning is on hold until i pick up the new bike as they have to go in with the old one to get the locks changed for the new one so no point doing them before hand

thinking about comes from my cousin stating that he wanted to tour scotland in two years time to him phoning me and saying that his wife now wants to go somewhere with guaranteed heat like the south of france so now are thinking of south of france but could all change as we all know what SWMBO is like with changing the mind:JB

and am i correct in thinking that the D roads are back roads the E roads are motorway and N roads like our duel carriageways and toll roads can be anything the french wish them to be
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A Roads are Autoroutes or motorways.They are sometimes designated E Routes as well.
N Roads are Route Nationale, or main roads which can be dual carriageway.
D Roads are Departmental Roads which are the smaller back roads
V Roads are tiny roads which generally only go to small communes or villages.
 
JWFr said:
N Roads are Route Nationale, or main roads which can be dual carriageway.
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Like our A roads

JWFr said:
D Roads are Departmental Roads which are the smaller back roads
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Like our B roads

JWFr said:
A Roads are Autoroutes or motorways.
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Like our M roads


So, to recap, N=A; A=M and D=B

Simples.

JWFr said:
A Roads are Autoroutes or motorways.They are sometimes designated E Routes as well.
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But the UK also has E roads.

For example, the A5080 from Liverpool to Huyton is actually the E20 even if we don't call it an E road. It's mostly a dual carriageway even though it doesn't have to be. Some of it isn't. That bit of it is like an A road or an N road. When you get to Knotty Ash, the A road (or N road) becomes an M road even though it's all an E road (which is the same as an E road in France).

The E40 starts in Calais where it's also the A16 (same as our M road). But when it gets to Germany, it becomes the 44 - ie no letter at all, even though it's still an E (like our M). In all it's 8,500km long. If you're on it for more than a week, you've probably missed the south of France.

Vous comprends?

:nenau
 
seadog said:
As mr wapping says above, viamichelin is your friend but you could do worse than the route napoleon.
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I dunno why some folk think just by staying off motorways they will find awesome roads, if the motorway is flat and dead straight for 400 miles the surrounding back roads are gonna be pretty dull also.

Either way I would put up with a full day of motorway to get as far south as possible and then have a great day on the better southern roads.

If going all that way I would also highly recommend adding a thrid day and take in some of the Route Des Grand Alpes, or some of the Vercors roads near Grenoble (far better than Route Napoleon)

If you must do it in two days Route Napoleon is probably the best you can manage (maybe do that on the way home) but you can also cut across the Vosges, or run down the Black Forest - all better options than the motorway shadowing French D-Roads.

And as your Mrs is not being flown down by Private jet I would guess Monaco will seem a bit pricey - Menton is a 10 minute ride / 20 minute bus journey along the coast and far more reasonable.

Leave her on the beach and head back up to the mountains for a day if you can also.
 
I think he just wanted to avoid paying the tolls? The non-toll motorway bits were fine.

Anyway, the bod who wears the troosers will probably decide before 2015 that they are all off to a nice caravan site in Clunderwen. And that will be that.
 
The A75 from Claremont to Monpellier is a brilliant road even though its a motorway. Free, apart from the Millau Bridge section and full of fast corners and bends.

Care in the summer if you're blasting though - the Police patrol with helicopters.




whether it will still be there in two years though is anyones guess ;):P
 
JWFr said:
A Roads are Autoroutes or motorways.They are sometimes designated E Routes as well.
N Roads are Route Nationale, or main roads which can be dual carriageway.
D Roads are Departmental Roads which are the smaller back roads
V Roads are tiny roads which generally only go to small communes or villages.
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Mostly correct, although D roads can be important major routes, even dual carriageways.
N roads are administered and maintained by the central governement (like the Highways Agency) and D roads are administered and maintained by the local authority. The difference does not indicate the size or importance of the route (as in the UK A & B designations). Once upon a time D roads were just local routes, but there is a tendency for N roads to be reclassified as D roads.

The E system is on top of this system and denotes routes of European significance. The E road system exists in the UK too, but nobody uses it.

The road numbering system in France doesn't work like it does in the UK and you'd be we'll advised to mostly ignore it for navigational purposes.
 
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