Heidenau K60 tyres

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For my Alaska trips I've been looking for a tyre which will not only do the mileage of around 8500 miles but cope with just about every road and weather condition you can think of. I was told the Heidenau's were the very fellows so duly put them on.

1st impressions were that they were decent tyre on the road but a little noisy. As the mileage builds they really start to behave very well and are very secure on good tarmac and rough bumpy roads on a loaded GS. The interesting bit would be when we hit the Dalton to see how they were and I have to say they did a great job on gravel, rough roads and in mud. There is a little movement from the front but once you get used to it the grip is good and predictable. The wear rate is excellent and even when they square off, they still perform well. The pictures show them after about 9500 miles and although they have worn a little strangely, they still have some life and offer decent grip on that road when you get used to the bars waggling about a bit.

They are fairly susceptable to pressure and I was advised 34 front and rear which is good in all conditions although I ran 36 in the rear on the road.

The side walls are as tough as old boots and punctures I would think are rare. If you had a flat, I'm sure you could ride it gently to a safe place. One of the guys on the trip had one down at 10 psi and the only thing he noticed was a bit of vagueness on the front which prompted a pressure check;)

Having said all that, in my opinion they aren't quite as good as tourances etc on the road and not as good as TKC's on the dirt but as a compromise, they are a really good tyre. One thing I did notice is when you shut the throttle, they seem to act like brakes and you slow very quickly.

Bad Points: Tough to mount as the walls are hard. Bit vague on gravel but predictable and not as good as TKC's on gravel. Noisy.

Good points: long tyre life, acceptable on road in wet and dry, you can go from tarmac to dirt with confidence.

Overall, probably the best dual purpose tyre out there at the moment and if you are planning a trip to say Morocco, they will do the job easily. Also if you are green laning or like going of road a bit, they are well worth considering. If you just ride on the road, I wouldn't bother as the noise will probably piss you off after a while and you will get better grip elsewhere.

Up in Alaska, it's the most common dual purpose tyre now and Adventure Cycle Works in Fairbanks fit around 80 per week for the Dalton and Dempster Highways and they only heard of 2 punctures last year with the K60's. Everyone knows they do the job and will last the distance:thumb

I'm having a new set fitted tomorrow:D
 

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+1 on these tyres, had mine on the R80ST for a few years now, and 7000 miles, with no sign of a problem, still loads of life left, although I am changing mine this winter for some Avons with a more road biased tread, for a trip through Europe next year.
 
Had these on my Transalp for a while but now prefer Mitas E-07 as a similar type of tyre... as you say the Heidenaus are hard enough to fit and I get better mileage from the Mitas plus I like them better in the wet.
 
I like the look of the tread... but they look very squared off, and knowing how you ride chap, I'm very surprised. They don't look like much fun in the corners on the road...
 
I put a pair of these on pre Spain/Maroc in April 2012, ready for some heavenly twisties, gravel tracks, stony roads etc etc. Having never ridden on them before, only read about them, they appeared to be an ideal hybrid tyre for what I needed.....;)

Delighted to say, that they did exceed my expectations. They performed really well on the long, dry twisties, and really well on my off road excursions. They even did me proud in the sand of the sahara!!!:D

Back home, I did the RBLR Iron Butt 1000 (ended up doing closer to 1700 miles over the weekend), and for the majority of that trip, it rained...christ, did it rain :blast and the tyres, again performed very well.

I take Chris's good/bad points...however, I do like the tyre & would have no hesitation on fitting them again...:thumb2
 
Did yours look that squared off when you were done with them? And they were still good in the corners?
 
I like the look of the tread... but they look very squared off, and knowing how you ride chap, I'm very surprised. They don't look like much fun in the corners on the road...

Those ones are the pre-scout version Mav, which did square off rapidly because of the fairly open block pattern around the 'equator' of the tyre.

The new version for the Lebbenfiddy/1200 size is de-facto, the 'Scout' version, which has a joined-up centre block pattern (IE more runbber around the equator, so longer wearing) , precisely because of the squaring off issue.

Not tried the Scout version yet meself, but I've run and been very happy with the older stylee blocks and will probably fit some to the K bike when I manage to wear out the more sticky rubber that it's wearing at the moment.

Heidis used to be a budget tyre, but they seem to have risen rapidly in price from a few years back- I seem to remember stories of a factory change and a compound change along with it, but I might well be talking out of my bum again :blast
 
I am about to change my K60 scout. The rear done now just over 10000 miles. I am not that keen on the scout, just does not feel the same anymore as the old K60 and is not as good off-road. My old front tyre lasted me 18500 miles :thumb2
Unfortunately I seem to have one of the rare GSA's where the heidis don't sit proper on the rim. My old front was looking air and I had to top up every second day and my new scout rear does the same.:blast As much as I like the tyre that just starting to annoy me now so I shall go for the new Metzler Karoo 3 which comes out in February. Mynetmoto in Germany got the prices up already and they seem to be around the £80 mark each
 
I am about to change my K60 scout. The rear done now just over 10000 miles. I am not that keen on the scout, just does not feel the same anymore as the old K60 and is not as good off-road. My old front tyre lasted me 18500 miles :thumb2
Unfortunately I seem to have one of the rare GSA's where the heidis don't sit proper on the rim. My old front was looking air and I had to top up every second day and my new scout rear does the same.:blast As much as I like the tyre that just starting to annoy me now so I shall go for the new Metzler Karoo 3 which comes out in February. Mynetmoto in Germany got the prices up already and they seem to be around the £80 mark each

I hope the new Karoo's are quieter than the last - great off road but the noise on road had me not loving my bike and changing them early. Motoscott fitted got me some TKCs at a fair price
 
I hope the new Karoo's are quieter than the last - great off road but the noise on road had me not loving my bike and changing them early. Motoscott fitted got me some TKCs at a fair price
We're those Karoos, or Karoo Ts? There's quite a big difference between the 2...
 
dont know and they are now in the skip!

:D

Here's the difference (the regular, and the Ts):

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Guys, I've got a trip to Romania coming up on the 1200, I'm planning on geting new rubber fitted here for the ride down and back. I'll be riding 70pct unpaved roads and fire tracks and 30pct road down there. Is the K60 Scout still the daddy or should I consider any other tyres? I think TCK's will be overkill and proably won't last the trip. Cheers. Phil
 
The Heidi's will do the trip but there are other new tyres out there which I've not tried. They may be better.
 
I used K60's for a trip to Greece last year, worked for me:)
 
I've been running a TKC70 on the rear of GSA and I'm really quite impressed - very free running on the tarmac and seems pretty on the trails, although have not tried it in mud yet. Wear seems good so far as does traction in the wet. That with a Karoo 3 on the front seems to be a great combo. The Karoo seems to grip really well, and isn't 'cupping' like the TKC80s would quite quickly.

Hope that helps :thumb2
 
Proberbly in the wrong section but I have a Pair of new unused, purchased 8 weeks ago still wrapped, tubed Heidenau K60 & K60 Scouts for sale to fit GSA WC £ 120 plus UK postage at cost (estimated £20)
 
Thanks for the input guys. I think I'm going to go with a TKC front and K60 rear. I hoping this combo will give the best of all worlds. I think Wreford Mills is running this on his HP2. I'll report back after the trip.

Dane. Do you know if those tyres will fit an air cooled 1200? Front 110/80/19 Rear 150/70/17? Cheers
 


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