BaseCamp is shite. Get it off your chest here.

i did say none garmin products, and for me mapsource is missing things that basecamp has, i can use both equally as well so for my purpose basecamp has it, so really for my use not like mapsource.
 
i did say none garmin products, and for me mapsource is missing things that basecamp has, i can use both equally as well so for my purpose basecamp has it, so really for my use not like mapsource.

I'd be interestd to know what is missing from Mapsource that Basecamp offers.

John
 
I doubt it offers anything extra that you would use, but for myself it does.
 
I doubt it offers anything extra that you would use, but for myself it does.

But the reason I asked was to find out what "extra" Bascamp might offer that I have so far missed. Your reply seems to imply that any benefits are rather specialised.

John
 
I believe that Basecamp can tell you when to have a piss, and or stop for a rest..
 
John you have used basecamp, and i doubt if there is anything else you personally would find of use that you dont already no about, so why the insistance of asking what i find of use that mapsource does not have, unless of course you have not used basecamp or dont know how to use it, the point is moot,
 
It's very easy, Lee

Mapsource, is simple for an owner wishing to plot their own routes for anything as basic as going from A to B, right up to very complicated routes from A to E (or further) via B, C and D.

Mapsource is excellently simple if the owner wants the software to create their entire route(s) for them.

Mapsource creates unannounced shaping points by default.

Mapsource allows the owner to chose between various transport modes.

Mapsource allows the owner to select their own preferences and avoidances.

Mapsource will support third party routable and unroutable maps.

Mapsource integrates well with Garmin GPS devices.

Mapsource does not work on Mac computers.

It probably does some other things too but I've forgotten.

Mapsource is no longer actively developed or supported by Garmin.

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BaseCamp does all the above (except it creates announced waypoints by default) and - as a bonus - it works off a Mac and a PC

It is also more than capable of doing lots of other things, along with integrating with other Garmin products and software, some of it built in. Some might regard this as 'specialised' whilst others might just call it 'useful', enancing their ownership experience.

BaseCamp is actively supported and is still very much enjoying ongoing development by Garmin.

That BaseCamp really annoys some people is maybe a winning knockout bonus but probably not one that Garmin intended.

PS No offence to Mapsource users; you are all lovely, really. It all matters not one jot and at least you are not stuck using Tire or MotoGoLoco and then wondering why it's not working on your Garmin device, which of course is Garmin's fault as they refuse to use Google maps and Michelin maps, which is all feckin unreasonable when it's a premium priced product.
 
A bit of a dilemma, as Mapsource would appear to still do - all I am looking for in mapping - but unless you use Basecamp regularly....... it confounds you even more.

Al
 
John you have used basecamp, and i doubt if there is anything else you personally would find of use that you dont already no about, so why the insistance of asking what i find of use that mapsource does not have, unless of course you have not used basecamp or dont know how to use it, the point is moot,

Why so defensive? You, like anyone else, are free to use whatever system suits you. It was a simple question but I respect your right not to answer.

John
 
While it is obvious that Garmin no longer issues updates for Mapsource and does so for Basecamp you could argue that the reason for that is that Basecamp is still "work in progress" whereas Mapsource just works!

As for the "no longer supported" argument, I think this is a real red herring. If you have a problem with Basecamp malfunctioning the only support you will get from Garmin is an instruction to delete and re intall. If a malfunction ocurs with my Mapsource I can do just that, delete what I have and re install from Garmin. As Mapsource saves all my routes etc as separate files (unlike Basecamp) I don't have to do anything to save or recover my work.

John
 
When Basecamp first came out, I was using and was quite good with Mapsource.. I was (incorrectly) led to believe that Mapsource would no longer be available, certainly for the newer Garmin satnavs, so set about 'relearning' Basecamp, and got the hang of it.

I found it 'cluncky' and needlessly complex, having to select different 'tools' for various functions, changing screens to see other things (ETA, mileage for instance)... and it didn't do anything different for me..

I just wanted to create my own routes, the very reason for me owning a satnav, I rarely if ever select a destination and press go.

I then found out that Mapsource still works, and will do for the foreseeable future, even on the latest units, so unless you're using a Mac thingie, I see no benefit using Basecamp... in fact some of the features don't seem to work on my Windows 10 notebook (avoidances for example).

However some use it and like it, so good for them..
 
Why so defensive? You, like anyone else, are free to use whatever system suits you. It was a simple question but I respect your right not to answer.

John


Not defensive just a simple question as to why you would ask, knowing that you have tried basecamp and do not like it and prefer to use mapsource. So why on earth would you need to know what you are missing about something you do not like to use.
I have said i can use both equally as good, its just that basecamp has certain things and does certain things that mapsource can not do or does not have, you make it very clear you do not like basecamp so i will presume its not the software for you, and so my reply about it being a moot point.
 
Not defensive just a simple question as to why you would ask, knowing that you have tried basecamp and do not like it and prefer to use mapsource. So why on earth would you need to know what you are missing about something you do not like to use.
I have said i can use both equally as good, its just that basecamp has certain things and does certain things that mapsource can not do or does not have, you make it very clear you do not like basecamp so i will presume its not the software for you, and so my reply about it being a moot point.

As I have said before I keep my version of Basecamp up to date and try it from time to time. I was just interested in what you found useful, you never know others might be interested too. I certainly agree that they both work and both have features not present in the other. I am also open to the posibility that I might have missed something and that Basecamp has features that I know nothing of.

John
 
Basecamp has hidden screens with features like:

Interactive mapping with suggested scenic stops along any route that is calculated
Trip advisor style reviews on points of interest
Suggested twisty routes through all major European countries
Automatic interface between Snapchat and Tinder showing location of "friends"
Information on special discounted hotels and eateries that cater only for bikers
Special "Users Wives" section with video as well as pictures

If your not using these features you're missing out on the action

Rik
 
Basecamp has hidden...

Special "Users Wives" section with video as well as pictures

If your not using these features you're missing out on the action

It's true, too!

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How is it 'better' ?

It's more versatile, accurate and more powerful (in my opinion obviously) than anything else I can use on a Mac. 99% of the time it does exactly what I want it to. It took me around Spain, exactly where I wanted to go, flawlessly. I found it worth persevering with, and many thanks to Wapping and leedude some time ago in helping my learning.


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It's more versatile, accurate and more powerful (in my opinion obviously) than anything else I can use on a Mac. 99% of the time it does exactly what I want it to. It took me around Spain, exactly where I wanted to go, flawlessly. I found it worth persevering with, and many thanks to Wapping and leedude some time ago in helping my learning.


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Please, pretty please, tell me how you got your garmin or BMW Nav working with a mac? I am having a prolonged nightmare with my Nav6 and Macbook air. In contrast to your experience, my Nav6 was awful in Spain. Any guidance would be much appreciated.
 


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