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Just booked the Eurotunnel and the OBB Nightjet from Düsseldorf to Innsbruck for September. Have made a very basic start to the route to include some passes, Auto & Tecnik Museum and Maastricht to visit the youngest daughter who will have started a four month internship as part of the Erasmus programme.

If anyone can advise the “must do” passes that would be great, I would like to include the Furka as filmed in 007s Goldfinger.

TIA
 
Then do the feckin’ Furka then.

As a basic start.... get a map. It’s amazing how many people are reluctant to do this. They are cheap and will last many years; right up a biker’s street.

Got one? Great.

Now tell us how long you’d like to spend Adventuring (with a capital A) out from Innsbruck, over the Furka and towards (I guess) Maastricht to meet your daughter. Are you also looking for routes from Switzerland to Maastricht and from there to home, too?

Whilst you ponder those mysteries, shimmy yourself over to the RiDE magazine website and score yerself their guide to the Alps ‘Special’. That at least is free and easy.

https://www.ride.co.uk/routes-1/ride-guide-to-the-alps

Then take yourself to Amazon (or a half decent book shop) and buy a copy of Mr Hermann’s excellent bible of all things biker like and Alpine, ‘Motorcycle Journeys Through the Alps and More’. You’ll then be cooking on gas. Also try a look at the stickies some twit took his time to create. Here’s a starter for 10:

https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showt...ce-Michelin-Louis-KurvenKoenig-etc-GPX-routes

https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showt...utes-(OK-some-missing)-and-most-of-the-passes

Alternatively, do nothing and Rasher will do it all for you.

Have a great time, September can’t come soon enough.


PS Whilst you wait for Rasher, how about:

All roads in Switzerland, lead to Andermatt. Start by heading there. You can use it as a base for the classic, Five Passes Loop.

Then have a gander at:

https://www.myswitzerland.com/en-gb...tions/motorbike-tour-south-north-stage-1.html

https://www.myswitzerland.com/en-gb...tions/motorbike-tour-south-north-stage-2.html
 
Many thanks for the pointers, it’s map time over the weekend, first determine which extra maps I might need, second out with the highlighters.
 
Then do the feckin’ Furka then.

As a basic start.... get a map. It’s amazing how many people are reluctant to do this. They are cheap and will last many years; right up a biker’s street.

Got one? Great.

Now tell us how long you’d like to spend Adventuring (with a capital A) out from Innsbruck, over the Furka and towards (I guess) Maastricht to meet your daughter. Are you also looking for routes from Switzerland to Maastricht and from there to home, too?

Whilst you ponder those mysteries, shimmy yourself over to the RiDE magazine website and score yerself their guide to the Alps ‘Special’. That at least is free and easy.

https://www.ride.co.uk/routes-1/ride-guide-to-the-alps

Then take yourself to Amazon (or a half decent book shop) and buy a copy of Mr Hermann’s excellent bible of all things biker like and Alpine, ‘Motorcycle Journeys Through the Alps and More’. You’ll then be cooking on gas. Also try a look at the stickies some twit took his time to create. Here’s a starter for 10:

https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showt...ce-Michelin-Louis-KurvenKoenig-etc-GPX-routes

https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showt...utes-(OK-some-missing)-and-most-of-the-passes

Alternatively, do nothing and Rasher will do it all for you.

Have a great time, September can’t come soon enough.


PS Whilst you wait for Rasher, how about:

All roads in Switzerland, lead to Andermatt. Start by heading there. You can use it as a base for the classic, Five Passes Loop.

Then have a gander at:

https://www.myswitzerland.com/en-gb...tions/motorbike-tour-south-north-stage-1.html

https://www.myswitzerland.com/en-gb...tions/motorbike-tour-south-north-stage-2.html

Your very helpful post gives him all he needs to know.

However, after 4,314 posts by ymfb he should already know all of that himself!

As you said Andermatt is the hub of great roads - Susten to Andermatt and then over the Oberalp.
 
Many thanks for the pointers, it’s map time over the weekend, first determine which extra maps I might need, second out with the highlighters.

Switzerland can be covered near enough in just two or, more likely, one map. I guess you’ll not be off-roading or seeking out goat tracks or you’d have told us.

The good news is that the nice people at ADAC have already been busy with their map and highlighter, so you don’t have to:

https://www.adac.de/_mmm/pdf/TK_06_Schweiz_zur Freigabe_210817.pdf

I’ve used their suggestions many times and never found myself wishing that I hadn’t. The maps will print well enough on A4 or have it printed nicely (maybe in A3) at one of those High Street print shops. Besides not having to make any great effort, the great thing about ADAC’s suggested routes is that - as they are designed for car drivers as much as for motorcyclists - they might sometimes take some interesting small roads, they’ll never take you down a goat track or through a farmyard.

Whilst the ADAC routes map will do most things, the Kurvenking website will do even more. It’s all in foreign but that is because it’s what they speak. Guess what the pictures and words like ‘Motorrad Tourenplanner’ and ‘GPS’ or ‘PDF’ mean. Click about in it, zoom in and out, it’s free you can’t break it:

https://kurvenkoenig.de/motorrad/motorradtouren-in-der-schweiz.html

When it comes to a route from Switzerland to Maastricht, I’d suggest starting with the excellent Kurviger route planner:

https://kurviger.de/en

It has four separate settings for its algorithms, anything from taking motorways through to some quite fiddly and (to be frank) sometimes quite silly small roads, useless if you have set aside just one morning to get from somewhere in Switzerland to Maastricht and be there in time for lunch.


PS If you are ever stuck looking at foreign, cheat by using Google translate. Highlight all the gibberish text, copy it and paste it into Google translate. Here’s an example:

Die schönsten Schweizer Motorradtouren
Wer immer unseren Planeten erschaffen hat, scheint die Schweiz für Motorradfahrer geplant zu haben. Jede Straße, jeder Pass, jede Kehre und jeder See hält unvergessliche Bikerträume parat. Egal ob in den Tälern oder auf den Traumpässen bis in die Gletscherregionen, die landschaftliche Schönheit, die naturverbundene Bevölkerung finden Sie überall in der Schweiz.

Jeder Kanton hat eigene Höhepunkte zu bieten, die wir Ihnen hier vorstellen wollen.

Wenn Sie eine Motorradtour in der Schweiz planen, nutzen Sie unseren Motorrad Tourenplaner.

Viel Vergnügen !

Becomes, as if by magic, which it really is:

The most beautiful Swiss motorcycle tours

Whoever created our planet seems to have planned Switzerland for motorcyclists. Every road, every pass, every turn and every lake has unforgettable biker dreams. Whether in the valleys or on the dream passages to the glacier regions, the scenic beauty, the nature-loving population can be found everywhere in Switzerland.

Each canton has its own highlights, which we would like to introduce to you here.

If you are planning a motorcycle tour in Switzerland, use our motorcycle tour planner.

Have fun !
 
Hermans book pretty much covers all most people ever need - "motorcycle Journey's through the Alps and Beyond"

Hard to say much more without knowing how long the OP has and where he needs to be and when.

Andermatt has the Figure-8 loop - Furka, Grimsel, Susten, Nufenen and St Gothard - all easily do-able in a day, so why not? if you take the Grimsel and Furka on your way in to Andermatt (assuming you are stopping there) it makes the following day an even easier circle and not a figure 8 with the Furka twice (and IMO the Furka is far from the best of the Andermatt passes)

A few interesting dead ends around here - covered in Hermans book that can stretch the day out a bit more, we like the run down the traffic controlled road at the top of the Grimsel - and the refuge at the bottom is much better priced than the packed out places at the top of the Grimsel itself.

I also prefer the old part cobbled Tremola to the newer St Gothard, but if your on a Fireblade you may well argue with that view!
 
I also prefer the old part cobbled Tremola to the newer St Gothard, but if your on a Fireblade you may well argue with that view!

I can vouch for its qualities on an HP4.

Hard to say much more without knowing how long the OP has and where he needs to be and when.

The devil is indeed in the detail. The only known date is 19 September.
 
The devil is indeed in the detail. The only known date is 19 September.

But no.

It is September 19.

Ergo.....some time during September of this year...exact date unknown. :D
 
I bought the Hermanns excellent book last year, but cannot at present locate it, I think my touring buddy may have it, Mrs YMFB will be checking all the other nooks and crannies tomorrow!

Although we have previously managed to pretty much miss Switzerland before it’s in the cards for 2019 and later on I’m sure as previous years I will pick up a couple of their highly prized screen stickers, aka Vignettes.

4314 posts does not make me qualified to know which passes are worth the ride, but as it has been intimated, you can’t go wrong so I probably will.

I had a quick look on Amazon for the map Wapping kindly sent the link for, as I prefer to draw on paper maps at the planning stage then bang in the Satnav the desired waypoints on the morning.

I’m sure it was Wapping who recommended the excellent Hotel del Oso (Picos) which we have used three times, every stay has been excellent, so any more gems like that, but for Austria, Switzerland....... gratefully accepted.
 
Be sure to garner bods’ dead certain predictions on the weather for each day of September for the Alps. You can start the garnering process today, before you hunt for the book and your maps.
 
It was in the living room all along :D
 

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Be sure to garner bods’ dead certain predictions on the weather for each day of September for the Alps. You can start the garnering process today, before you hunt for the book and your maps.

Not that you were likely to know but the youngest who we will meet up with nickname is Bod, or are you stalking?
 
I’m taking Hermanns to the dentist in the hope it might make me think of happier times to come instead of the scheduled one hour long root canal this afternoon!
 
I’m taking Hermanns to the dentist in the hope it might make me think of happier times to come instead of the scheduled one hour long root canal this afternoon!

Dunno, his writing style sometimes hurts ;-)

Don't mind his wittering so much, but one minute he is explaining exactly where a particular turn up a pass is, yet for the most part the maps are crap and road numbers scarce, but it got me started and has proved a useful reference for many subsequent visits.

Generally the passes he rates highly are very good, I have some favourites he seems less keen on, but that is just the way of the world and personal preference.

Heading East out of Andermatt there is not much beyond the Oberalp so a better alternative may be to take a longer route via th San Bernadino.
 
We took the same train last year and did a weeks tour south and east of Innsbruck through the Dolomites.

The riding around there was awesome!

The following link should get you onto Myrouteapp and the right area then there's a weeks worth of routes on there...

Myrouteapp - Sheepy tours

The Timmelsjoch pass is a short ride from Innsbruck and starts the tour off nicely!
 
Dunno, his writing style sometimes hurts ;-)

Don't mind his wittering so much, but one minute he is explaining exactly where a particular turn up a pass is, yet for the most part the maps are crap and road numbers scarce, but it got me started and has proved a useful reference for many subsequent visits.

Generally the passes he rates highly are very good, I have some favourites he seems less keen on, but that is just the way of the world and personal preference.

Heading East out of Andermatt there is not much beyond the Oberalp so a better alternative may be to take a longer route via th San Bernadino.

As you say, personal preference.
When I ride the Oberalp , from Andermatt, I usually head south to Livigno and cover some great roads getting there (there are options too). After Livigno more pass roads further into Italy.
 
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