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Daggerit said:

Interesting thread but I ran the stock exhaust until the first service and have had a Euro 3 Yoshi on it since then and really haven’t noticed a difference. I’ve noticed the post that says the quick shifter is really smooth as well, which just makes me think more that there’s something wrong with mine...

Also noticed today that on a few downshifts I’d push the shifter down and it kinda felt like it shifted but look at the dash and has a blank indicator then surged and felt like it blipped and properly went into gear, but with a noticeable delay. That’s a new one!


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Oh dear have you informed BMW UK yet, I would sling the bike bike and say unsafe to ride, due to the gears alone.

Smogbob said:

Oh dear have you informed BMW UK yet, I would sling the bike bike and say unsafe to ride, due to the gears alone.

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Yeah, they sent me back to the dealer and the service manager is apparently looking into it...

The problem I have is that the same issues don’t seem to happen on every ride so I can’t guarantee that the tech will actually feel them. So each time he tries and doesn’t then it costs me £50-100 which I’m not willing to pay until I can find an actual issue that I can recreate since the 4k rpm popping that happens each time doesn’t seem to be an issue.


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Daggerit said:

Yeah, they sent me back to the dealer and the service manager is apparently looking into it...

The problem I have is that the same issues don’t seem to happen on every ride so I can’t guarantee that the tech will actually feel them. So each time he tries and doesn’t then it costs me £50-100 which I’m not willing to pay until I can find an actual issue that I can recreate since the 4k rpm popping that happens each time doesn’t seem to be an issue.


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Then go above the UK and email Germany and scream blue murder, tell them it is life threatening and that they must respect the lemon law.

When you buy goods/motorcycle you enter into a contract with the seller of those goods. Under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended) goods/the bike must be:

'as described',
'of satisfactory quality', and
'fit for purpose' – this means both their everyday purpose, and also any specific purpose that you agreed with the seller.

Goods sold must also match any sample you were shown in-store, or any description in a brochure.

Retailer or manufacturer
In most cases, your rights are against the retailer – the company that sold you the product – not the manufacturer, and so you must take any claim against the retailer. However, if you have bought something on hire purchase (HP), it is the HP company that is responsible.

If you think you have a claim under the Sale of Goods Act for one of the reasons above, you have several possible remedies, depending on the circumstances and on what you want done.

If you want to get your money back
If you buy a product that turns out to be faulty, you can choose to 'reject' it: give it back and get your money back. However, the law gives you only a 'reasonable' time to do this – what is reasonable depends on the product and how obvious the fault is. However, even with something like a car, you usually have no more than three to four weeks from when you receive it to reject it.

If you want to get a faulty item replaced or repaired
You have the right to get a faulty item replaced or repaired, if you're happy with this (or if it's too late to reject it). You can ask the retailer to do either, but they can normally choose to do whatever would be cheapest.

Under the Sale of Goods Act, the retailer must either repair or replace the goods 'within a reasonable time but without causing significant inconvenience'. If the seller doesn't do this, you are entitled to claim either:

reduction on the purchase price, or
your money back, minus an amount for the usage you've had of the goods (called 'recision').
If the retailer refuses to repair the goods, you may have the right to arrange for someone else to repair it, and then claim compensation from the retailer for the cost of doing this.

You have six years to make a claim for faulty goods in England, Wales and Northern Ireland; in Scotland you have five years.

What you need to do to prove your claim
If your claim under the Sale of Goods Act ends up in court, you may have to prove that the fault was present when you bought the item and not, for example, something that was the result of normal wear and tear.

Six months...and counting
If your claim is about a problem that arises within six months of buying the product, it's up to the retailer to prove that the goods were fit for purpose – or 'as described' – when it sold them. It is also responsible for proving that the problem was caused by you (for example, because you had an accident with the item that damaged it). Beyond six months, it's up to you to prove that the problem was the retailer's.

So you may need to prove that the fault was not down to wear and tear or damage you caused, and that the product (or a component) should have lasted longer than it did. To do this you may need an expert's report, for example from an engineer or mechanic.

Smogbob said:

Then go above the UK and email Germany and scream blue murder, tell them it is life threatening and that they must respect the lemon law.

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That’s the next step, I just want to get an initial answer from Aberdeen so I have a response to take to Germany if needed. I think it would be good to let someone else take a spin on it and let me know what they think, especially if they have a 1250 with smooth shifts...

Any takers near Aberdeen?


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Don’t forget to speak to Motorrad Central in Dalkeith.

I wonder if there is any form of calibration that can be done on the quickshifter sensor?

I checked the spark plug gap spec for my 1200 and it’s 0.8mm +/- 0.1mm.

Your’s may be in the specs at the back of the manual (1.0mm wouldn’t fit and 0.9mm was loose). Probably down to the difference in spark plug (iridium on yours?).

ShakeyBMW said:

Don’t forget to speak to Motorrad Central in Dalkeith.

I wonder if there is any form of calibration that can be done on the quickshifter sensor?

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Might not be the same on the 1250, but on my 2017 the quickshift was notchy, they upgraded the software and said they had calibrated a sensor, however not sure what sensor they where referring to Martin, but quickshift way better now, or also maybe because bike has more miles...........

My 1250 is smooth as butter on the Q/S, both up and down the box, although its only covered 300 odd miles to date. Im in Elgin.