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    Quote Originally Posted by abermarc View Post
    I dont take it the wrong way but a correct and proper rating is all I care about frankly.

    If you are lucky enough to be able to afford a £600 Shoei or Arai or whatever. Lucky you.

    My helmet cost a £100, granted its a little uncomfortable but its not loose. So unless you have a race spec helmet I'd be willing to bet my bike that they are both rated to either DOT, Snell or ECE 22.05 standard and that makes their impact protection pretty much exactly the same.

    Thanks for your concern though. I appreciate it. Can we get back on track now......
    Why would you put up with an uncomfortable helmet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by abermarc View Post
    Yeah I sort of get the whole small screen/no screen thing and I do plan to try it just to see the difference but I'm doing 120 mile per day commute, of which 70% is on motorway. Granted I have car too so dont use bike everyday but I do use it whenever sun is shining.

    SO my options appear to be: -

    1. put up with it as is - it is bearable but not a pleasant ride
    2. take a gamble on a screen change - may or may not work, money wasted if it doesn't
    3. remove screen - instead of current problem instead being blasted with wind so strong I develop fatigue in my arms and neck as a result of trying to stay up straight at 70mph and likely also being blasted by horizontal rain if I catch a shower

    I can say with almost certainty number 3 isn't going too happen, at least not on a permanent basis anyway.

    No one mentions the mirrors or adding extra spacers to bottom of screen, are they generally not an issue on the twin's?
    I have a long motorway commute. I have standard (i.e. very small) screen on my 700GS. I cruise at 70-80 and I don't notice any more drag or achey arms and neck than when I ride my K1600 with a much bigger screen. And there's certainly less buffeting on the 700...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky View Post
    Why would you put up with an uncomfortable helmet?
    Quote Originally Posted by Quinten View Post
    I have a long motorway commute. I have standard (i.e. very small) screen on my 700GS. I cruise at 70-80 and I don't notice any more drag or achey arms and neck than when I ride my K1600 with a much bigger screen. And there's certainly less buffeting on the 700...
    £100 head buy a £100 helmet Robin ... our friend puts up with a cheap uncomfortable helmet

    A good fitting proprietary helmet will prevent all kinds of buffeting, but a cheapie not so I'm afraid ... he has a lot to learn

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    Uncomfortable anything, in any situation, distracts you, demands attention from where it should be concentrated.

    Be comfy and think on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky View Post
    £100 head buy a £100 helmet Robin ... our friend puts up with a cheap uncomfortable helmet

    A good fitting proprietary helmet will prevent all kinds of buffeting, but a cheapie not so I'm afraid ... he has a lot to learn

    Hmmmm.... slightly mixed views on that one, Micky. For me the most critical thing in a helmet is comfort. They all pass the same certification tests, though in my experience the more expensive helmets are better built, will last longer, and the fittings are nicer to use. But if it's the wrong shape for your head it's going to be uncomfortable.

    The quietest helmet I've ever had was a BMW System 4 (or maybe 5?) flip front and that also had the least buffeting. But to be comfortable I had to go up a size and it was just a bit too big round my bonce. And it's impossible to make exact comparisons because I've had different bikes with different helmets. Short of back-to-back rides on the same bike, making comparisons is always going to be a bit vague.

    I currently use a couple of helmets - a Schuberth C3 that I paid £350 for, and a Caberg Duke that was £150. Both suit my head shape and price wasn't an issue when I bought them. I also have a 'spare' Lidl special that I sometimes use when popping into town, or if the Caberg is still waterlogged from the previous day's commute in the rain. I've never noticed any difference in noise of buffeting.

    So while I agree that having an uncomfortable helmet isn't very clever, I don't necessarily agree on the price front. I'd rather wear a really comfortable £100 helmet than a less comfortable £500 one.

    Also, not everyone has unlimited money to spend on bike kit, including helmets. I'm lucky enough at this point in my life to be able to afford whichever helmet I want, within reason. It wasn't that long ago that I was absolutely skint and the choice I had was between a Lidl helmet (and Lidl riding kit) or no helmet at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinten View Post
    Hmmmm.... slightly mixed views on that one, Micky. For me the most critical thing in a helmet is comfort. They all pass the same certification tests, though in my experience the more expensive helmets are better built, will last longer, and the fittings are nicer to use. But if it's the wrong shape for your head it's going to be uncomfortable.

    The quietest helmet I've ever had was a BMW System 4 (or maybe 5?) flip front and that also had the least buffeting. But to be comfortable I had to go up a size and it was just a bit too big round my bonce. And it's impossible to make exact comparisons because I've had different bikes with different helmets. Short of back-to-back rides on the same bike, making comparisons is always going to be a bit vague.

    I currently use a couple of helmets - a Schuberth C3 that I paid £350 for, and a Caberg Duke that was £150. Both suit my head shape and price wasn't an issue when I bought them. I also have a 'spare' Lidl special that I sometimes use when popping into town, or if the Caberg is still waterlogged from the previous day's commute in the rain. I've never noticed any difference in noise of buffeting.

    So while I agree that having an uncomfortable helmet isn't very clever, I don't necessarily agree on the price front. I'd rather wear a really comfortable £100 helmet than a less comfortable £500 one.

    Also, not everyone has unlimited money to spend on bike kit, including helmets. I'm lucky enough at this point in my life to be able to afford whichever helmet I want, within reason. It wasn't that long ago that I was absolutely skint and the choice I had was between a Lidl helmet (and Lidl riding kit) or no helmet at all.
    I can agree with that Robin

    Fit is the most important factor

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