well after many years of camping and converting vans , went up to a vw crafter mwb . great van but just a bit to big ,spent all evening sitting inside so it defeats the idea. now back to the old toyota hiace its seem to me the more room the more crap you take . I like the fact I can put a motorbike in side for the crossing then drop it on a fold out trailer for the rest of the holiday . once the bike is out the bed is set up job done, it depends on age and how well you both can rough it , please dont mention a roof tent!! a mate has all the gear but spends more time on cleaning and set up than enjoyment of the holiday .