20-50 oil for airheads. Much cheapness!

Posh Pete · Oct 15, 2019

Some information which should prove useful: I used to run my GS paralever on Unipart 20-50. This was available some time even after the demise of the business. I then switched to Comma Motorway 20-50. Then this disappeared from shelves! Searching around, I came across another Comma 20-50. Here it is at a bargain price ... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-X-Comm...747326&hash=item23c8184957:g:SY4AAOSwTuJYob57

Unfortunately there was no info available re its SAE rating! So, I contacted Comma technical help and got this initial reply:

The X-Flow type MOT 20W-50 meets the requirements for SAE 20W-50 and contains a good level of additives. However, this product has not undergone the commercial investment in engine testing to validate a specific level of performance like API or ACEA specifications and others a basic protection.

Hmmmmmmm! I mulled this over and then it occurred that this might simply be a marketing issue? i.e. the product was new in terms of its market presence but maybe an "old" oil? So I asked them! I got the following reply this morning ...

Dear Peter,
My apologies for the delay in our response.
Yes, Comma Motorway is the same oil as X-Flow Type MOT 20W-50.
Please let me know if you have any further queries or issues.

Best regards,

Ta daaaaaaaah!

nick.ct · Oct 15, 2019

if you are stocking up............

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-x-Comm...677419?hash=item26294d1f6b:g:sNcAAOSw7wJdlx7h

Bubb · Oct 15, 2019

Thanks..... just purchased as the ST is due an oil change, and this will save me dosh.

Bubb

Santa-2512 · Oct 15, 2019

It's only a fiver more for Motul 3000 via opie oils / ebay and that does meet the required spec .

nick.ct · Oct 15, 2019

Santa-2512 said:
It's only a fiver more for Motul 3000 via opie oils / ebay and that does meet the required spec .

Motul 3000, 4 litres, £22.99

4 x Comma X-Flow Type MOT, 18 litres, £28.39

You choose :blast

FatAl · Oct 15, 2019

I've used this company several times in recent years for various oil products

https://www.smithandallan.com/produ...h-and-allan-ultra-20w-50-engine-oil-api-sfsg/

lewisjohn · Oct 15, 2019

I’ve just ordered 18 litres, I’ve got 3 oil changes to do over the winter, Sam Lovegrove was on Henry Coles junk and disorderly last night, he was doing an oil service on a Matchless 500, using Comma 20/50, he seems to be very knowledgeable so if he’s ok using it then that’s fine by me.

Comfy Old Boots · Oct 16, 2019

Can i assume this is not up to spec for a '07 1200 gs?

Posh Pete · Oct 16, 2019

Smelly Old Boots said:
Can i assume this is not up to spec for a '07 1200 gs?

Really for older bikes/cars Owen. Lots of equally good (if not quite so cheap) options for oilheads. Any car oil that meets the spec will do.

Deleted account 220427001 · Oct 16, 2019

get the same oil from wilco car parts for 13 quid

B Murr · Oct 16, 2019

sheene said:
get the same oil from wilco car parts for 13 quid

That's just for 4.5 litres though. It does confirm name change as label is Motorway but photo shows x-flow

https://www.wilcodirect.co.uk/produ...ltigrade-motor-oil-4-5l-co-xfmot1g/CO-XFMOT1G

I don't really need any as already have enough for another couple of changes, however if Brexit cliff edge looms I'd get the 18 litres to go with 50 cans of baked beans and 1cwt of flour.

Santa-2512 · Oct 16, 2019

Smelly Old Boots said:
Can i assume this is not up to spec for a '07 1200 gs?

motul 3000 exceeds the 07 spec if i recall, ive got it in my 06, , I had castrol 20W50 in before but that was semi synth it was ok though. the Motul is a mineral type

stuart jenkins · Oct 17, 2019

If you're down East Sussex way, i get this for £16.99 for 4.5L at Jempsons petrol station in Peasmarsh

Posh Pete said:
Some information which should prove useful: I used to run my GS paralever on Unipart 20-50. This was available some time even after the demise of the business. I then switched to Comma Motorway 20-50. Then this disappeared from shelves! Searching around, I came across another Comma 20-50. Here it is at a bargain price ... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-X-Comm...747326&hash=item23c8184957:g:SY4AAOSwTuJYob57

Unfortunately there was no info available re its SAE rating! So, I contacted Comma technical help and got this initial reply:

The X-Flow type MOT 20W-50 meets the requirements for SAE 20W-50 and contains a good level of additives. However, this product has not undergone the commercial investment in engine testing to validate a specific level of performance like API or ACEA specifications and others a basic protection.

Hmmmmmmm! I mulled this over and then it occurred that this might simply be a marketing issue? i.e. the product was new in terms of its market presence but maybe an "old" oil? So I asked them! I got the following reply this morning ...

Dear Peter,
My apologies for the delay in our response.
Yes, Comma Motorway is the same oil as X-Flow Type MOT 20W-50.
Please let me know if you have any further queries or issues.

Best regards,

Ta daaaaaaaah!

stuart jenkins · Oct 17, 2019

Scrap that, i've just seen the link is for 2 @ £17 :blast

King Rat · Oct 17, 2019

Is the Comma going to be OK for the 1150? I think it is SG or SH it needs..... 20-50 would be fine, it is the other bit I am not so sure about, although I don't thrash it.

Posh Pete · Oct 17, 2019

King Rat said:
Is the Comma going to be OK for the 1150? I think it is SG or SH it needs..... 20-50 would be fine, it is the other bit I am not so sure about, although I don't thrash it.

See post 9 above.

FatAl · Oct 17, 2019

King Rat said:
Is the Comma going to be OK for the 1150? I think it is SG or SH it needs..... 20-50 would be fine, it is the other bit I am not so sure about, although I don't thrash it.

See the link on Post #6

Bubb · Oct 17, 2019

Mines arrived already...... R80ST can get an oil change this weekend!

Doesn’t say “motorway” on the containers....I think its going to be fine for the airheads

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