IAM Assessment ride

King Rat · Oct 29, 2019

I got talking to the local IAM chaps at the Staffs Biker Breakfasts and they have persuaded me to have an assessment ride with one of their assessors. That was back in June. I have contacted them regularly since and had a couple of emails back.... finally got suggested we could do this assessment on Saturday but with no suggestion of time or meeting place. I have asked on every correspondence that the guy rings me, and reiterated my phone number... he still hasn't phoned, nor told me where to be and when..... something tells me it isn't going to happen because they all put their bikes away for the winter. My initial reading of the whole IAM thing is coming to fruition. They have two days to redeem themselves. :rob

Stevie4scoops · Oct 29, 2019

They're much better than this in Gloucestershire. Very helpful and friendly

King Rat · Oct 29, 2019

SteveC10 said:
They're much better than this in Gloucestershire. Very helpful and friendly

They were very helpful and friendly at the Breakfast does too.... but when it comes to action instead of dialogue :blast

Posh Pete · Oct 30, 2019

Have a run up to Bonnie Scotland. We'll sort it for ya! :hrh

Tractors are go · Oct 30, 2019

Firstly, it shouldn't happen but it can do. Not naming a localish group to me

Too err is human but to really fuck up you need a committee.

Often there's special offers available around Christmas time, for the full IAM course.

I would say that Bike safe is probably a better option than an assessed ride. Training of any kind, to improve your riding, is well worth it.

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er-minio · Oct 30, 2019

Why would you care that much.

Boxerboy55 · Oct 30, 2019

Sorry, I’m chuckling as I’ve literally just hit SEND for an eMail saying “Thanks for a few rides, but I’ll pass on the test”.

The IAM nuances and the confusing (double) messages I encountered over a dozen rides, including 2 different second opinions, left me cold.
Literally freezing yesterday so the bike got SORNed last night.

I’m too old to argue any more. Roll on 2020.

Good luck.

King Rat · Oct 31, 2019

An interesting development. This morning I got a text from the poor chap who was charged with doing my assessment. Someone on here has made a formal complaint without my knowledge and it has been escalated to HQ. I had no intention of making such a formal complaint and fo rsomeone to do it without my knowledge is very underhand and, quite frankly, rude. I don't know who it was, I don't really want to. How about asking me if I wanted to complain formally before doing it on my behalf? Had I not heard I wouldn't have made a complaint, I would simply have shrugged it off and given up the idea as I would realise that they simply don't want my sort in their ranks. Consequently, the plans I had set aside so as to be available this Saturday have gone to waste.

I don't think I shall bother with the IAM now, not if this is how they carry on behind the scenes. Unbelievable.

Deleted account 200123001 · Oct 31, 2019

In best Jim Carey (liar,liar) voice...."it was me"..

Not really... but by posting your beef on an open forum you kinda did give your consent since you chose to put this into the public domain for people to do what ever they wish with.

More over...you can't really expect another member to stand idly by while members who have nominated themselves as assessors dont play their part.

If the guy doesn't want to play assessor anymore then he needs to deselect himself either temporarily or permanently.

But when a "club" is actively trying to grow and members are sabotaging that through apathy or intent that needs to be addressed.

King Rat · Oct 31, 2019

blueranger said:
In best Jim Carey (liar,liar) voice...."it was me"..

Not really... but by posting your beef on an open forum you kinda did give your consent since you chose to put this into the public domain for people to do what ever they wish with.

More over...you can't really expect another member to stand idly by while members who have nominated themselves as assessors dont play their part.

If the guy doesn't want to play assessor anymore then he needs to deselect himself either temporarily or permanently.

But when a "club" is actively trying to grow and members are sabotaging that through apathy or intent that needs to be addressed.

I had no idea it was a club - I thought the IAM was a road safety organisation.

Deleted account 200123001 · Oct 31, 2019

Some may argue differently.... it has a political agenda and it lobbies accordingly but it's a club for people who like to ride according to the "system".

Much like the Trf which is a trail riding club which engages in legal action against local authorities...as and when the need arises....as well as other good stuff I may add

King Rat · Oct 31, 2019

blueranger said:
Some may argue differently.... it has a political agenda and it lobbies accordingly but it's a club for people who like to ride according to the "system".

Much like the Trf which is a trail riding club which engages in legal action against local authorities...as and when the need arises....as well as other good stuff I may add

I don't go for rides with anyone else. They tend not to be going where I am....

Firestick · Oct 31, 2019

King Rat said:
I don't think I shall bother with the IAM now, not if this is how they carry on behind the scenes. Unbelievable.

You'll not get a pass in any case, now he's been called out.

Go RoSPA - great bunch of lads!

er-minio · Oct 31, 2019

I had no intention of making such a formal complaint and fo rsomeone to do it without my knowledge is very underhand and, quite frankly, rude

I think that sums up IAM.

More over...you can't really expect another member to stand idly by while members who have nominated themselves as assessors dont play their part.

You guys seem like fun at parties.

Deleted account 200123001 · Oct 31, 2019

er-minio said:
You guys seem like fun at parties.

I'm nothing to do with IAM...but carry on...

mw3230 · Oct 31, 2019

As with all volunteer run organisations (which the local IAM groups are) there are well meaning buffoons (aka knobheads) and then there are those who give a better level of service. It appears you've been dealing with a group represented by the former category which is a shame as the majority are pretty professional in their attitude and offer a good training and support despite not being paid (with the exception of meagre expenses)

er-minio · Oct 31, 2019

blueranger said:
I'm nothing to do with IAM...but carry on...

You are right! I misread your message above - apologies.
Anwyay, wouldn't agree that someone following up with a 'formal complaint' after someone rants on a forum would be the best (or nicest) course of action within the organisation.

Just to say, I've had contacts with a few IAM members (I was interested in it for a while) in the last years and they all seemed to match King Rat's commentary of what happened. But I also agree that you cannot really judge a large group of people from meeting just a few. So I'll just be a bit suspicious of "them"

Tractors are go · Oct 31, 2019

King Rat said:
I had no idea it was a club - I thought the IAM was a road safety organisation.

No, it's a self perpetuating money machine.

Each group is a seperate and independent charity.

Some groups are very clique and up there own arse, others aren't.

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Tractors are go · Oct 31, 2019

blueranger said:
Some may argue differently.... it has a political agenda and it lobbies accordingly but it's a club for people who like to ride according to the "system".

Much like the Trf which is a trail riding club which engages in legal action against local authorities...as and when the need arises....as well as other good stuff I may add

Charities aren't allowed to do politics, it's unlawful.

The IAM does research on road safety and advances an agenda on that basis. How much, or little, the average member has over that is between none and sfa, in my experience.

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Tractors are go · Oct 31, 2019

Firestick said:
You'll not get a pass in any case, now he's been called out.

Go RoSPA - great bunch of lads!

Bollocks, it was an assessed ride, nothing more.

Maybe he'd enjoy It, maybe not. Hopefully he'd learn something +ve from it.

As with the IAM, RoSPA have good and bad groups, waiting almost 2 years to start training (with RoSPA) isn't much use for most people.

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