BMW will never learn that BMW riders are pragmatic people that like nice looking and sounding bikes like the R Nine T but definitely want them also nice riding and practical !!! Too much to ask for obviously...
I really don’t understand your point. I’ve done thousands of touring miles on my RnineT. I’ve had countless BMWs over the years including R1200GSA LC and R1200R. Of course there are more focussed bikes for touring but the RnineT is the closest bike in the range that typifies the essence of classic bike looks and relative simplicity. The suspension is not ‘shite’, the favourite word of haters, it’s basic. Compared to older airheads and again I’ve had a few and still have, it’s miles better and millions of miles have been covered on worse. I’ve not felt the need to change. Some owners will spend more on an exhaust system than what it costs to have better front and back suspension mods.The 1250R is definitely a better bike than the R Nine T even if they both miss the Telelever that is much better than any fork...More power,wet clutch in front of the engine,centerstand,hard bags and luggage rack right from the factory...
It would have been nice if BMW would have offered these options for the R Nine T for people who want a simpler aircooled BMW experience...But unfortunately they decided to keep the R Nine T a toy for hipsters...
Oh well at least with the GS you can get it all except for the looks and a 17" front wheel...Saves me a lot of money not to have to buy another upgraded R Nine T...
Otherwise I would have bought another R Nine T myself because I like aircooled boxers
My Scrambler has tubeless wheels. Have they changed?I don’t think the bike needs £3k suspension , does it ?
Tubeless on the Urban & Scrambler would definitely be better.
Centre-stand ; most manufacturers seem to omit this as standard equipment on their non touring bikes.
It would look shit with hard bags, buy an RS!
It’s not an MX bike where you are changing the air filter every meeting . What’s your annual mileage as the filter should be good for 12k . And the battery , well my main bike has had the same battery for nearly 7 years now so not really an issue either.
Me thinks thou doth protest too much
If you want to ride fast especially on bumpy back roads you will see the stock suspension has not enough spring travel and is hopelessly underdamped like the junk they put on 1970's jap bikes when everyone bought Marzocchis or Konis.Today you have to buy Ohlin$$$ on the R Nine T.As for tubed wheels they are heavy and slow down the steering and if you have a flat you are completely screwed especially with the lack of a centerstand... You have to spend another 3 grand on tubeless wheels from the 719 collection or get the ugly cast ones they put on the Pure for only 2 grand...
But you can get now beautiful machined cast and Kineo looking spoke wheel$$$ that are tubeless as a factory 719 option for 2021...But still no hardbags,rack,centerstand or quality suspension components instead of the 60's style soviet shit they put on the 2021 R Nine T...
