which foot down first - stopping

cookie · Dec 14, 2008

Turraloon said:
Dont know what Tim has said before as i havn't looked but since he's and instructor and so am i, the only foot to put down when coming to a halt is the left foot. End of.

Left foot goes down so that rear brake can be applied untill completely stopped and also if your left foot slips once you stop, you fall to the pavement.....not the road.

Its a simple as that.

no taking circumstance into account? what if there's a pronounced camber on the road for instance?

what you've stated sounds like the usual, inflexible IAM dogma

stinkyfeet · Dec 14, 2008

BeemerBaz said:
........ and if you have linked brakes ?

Use both feet...

everywherevirtually · Dec 14, 2008

cookie said:
no taking circumstance into account? what if there's a pronounced camber on the road for instance?

what you've stated sounds like the usual, inflexible IAM dogma

Turraloon said:
Dont know what Tim has said before as i havn't looked but since he's and instructor and so am i, the only foot to put down when coming to a halt is the left foot. End of.

Left foot goes down so that rear brake can be applied untill completely stopped and also if your left foot slips once you stop, you fall to the pavement.....not the road.

Its a simple as that.

I know of a few roads in Cheshire where what you've said does not apply. If I put my left foot down I'd be on the deck as the camber off to the left is that severe. It's never "as simple as that" as you say.

When the roads are uniform and standardised the length and breadth of the country and indeed across Europe then we can apply dogmatic responses that fill all occasions.

Until that time arrives I would say to any rider, especially short legged ones is read the road every time you come to a stop.

Bryn · Dec 15, 2008

Right then.....

I can only comment about a police advanced refresher I was recently on.....

Coming to a stop..... last bit of braking on back brake, put down left foot.

at this time the clutch is in, and if you're at a set of traffic lights that are about to change to green for you....keep your left foot down and clutch in.....then when lights change out with the clutch and off you go by lifting up left leg.

If its a big junction and you'll be there a while still stop on back brake, putting your left foot down. Assess the lights, cover front brake and change feet slipping bike into neutral. Look for the green man at your set to change to red, for an early warning, then change feet again, into gear, putting left foot down so you move off having covered rear brake again.

Starting on a hill covering back brake is much easier than trying to use the throttle and the front brake at the same time also....

Easier done than said..... but thats what we had to do on the refresher, , but bear in mind whichever foot you use there are far more important things in life!

If you, for instance happen to be escorting the Queen on a Royal Visit.... it wouldn't do for each of the police bikes to be doing their own thing

I'd look a bit sloppy....

If you're out for a bimble... it generally doesn't matter that much :augie

Meanwhile shifted this to a more appropriate section :beerjug:

Norm · Dec 15, 2008

dxtans said:
Hi,
Had a really good exhange of views to-day, with a couple of other bikers.. (whilst stopping off for a coffee with wife+ gsa) ,on which :
foot should go down first when breaking ( coming to a stop/halt)
I am quite sure and I always do this, is that the left foot goes down first as the right foot covers the rear brake. The other guys were quite firm in that it does not matter.

I am not a newbie biker, been riding for over 15 years, but have I got it wrong all this time ?

thanks
dxtans

Hmmmm this thread got me thinking??????????

Which foot is better, The Left foot or the Right Foot

There’s only one way to find out …

FI I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I IGHT :JB

(courtesy Harry Hill))

Uinneag · Dec 15, 2008

It is all well and good on a polis pan or RT to put your left foot down first as these are low bikes.
It is not always possible to do this on Adv bikes due to the hieght.
An example of someone putting there left foot down first on a camber and toppling over is due to bad observation and poor instruction from the IAM type kunts :thumb2

Zundapp · Dec 15, 2008

IAM and similar driving/riding systems are put together in a way that folk don't have to think too hard about trivia for themselves - they'll just do as they're told and that's that. And overall it's safe and that's good.

But through time things and systems change; I can remember doing a police riding course about a hunner years ago and you put down and lifted both feet simultaneously, for stability if there was a wind, and it looked neater. Obviously impractical now for small cops and some folk on taller bikes!

Car driving has changed as well, to my horror when my daughter was learning to drive, the instructor told her to stay in 1st gear when waiting for lights to change. We'd have been severely whacked across the knees with a ruler for doing that!

However, it makes for endless boring debate (unless you're in a pub - then it's important!) about what's right or wrong.

Ignore the experts - just do whatever you think's best. For you.

jimbo · Dec 15, 2008

It depends which way you dress. The weight imbalence will mean the bike has a natural tendence to fall that way.

elevensies · Dec 15, 2008

find a really tall lass for pillion, and have her put her feet down, then you dont have to move at all :thumb2

Timolgra · Dec 15, 2008

Ok put it this way, we all know there's no right or wrong way since circumstances change but where I instruct, if you put your right foot down more than three times in those situations you fail your test regardless of road camber etc.

The examiner requires students to jump through (his) hoops (that's why it's taught), after that make your own decisions.

Uinneag · Dec 15, 2008

If you can't do it yourself teach it

Blackal · Dec 15, 2008

Timolgra said:
Ok put it this way, we all know there's no right or wrong way since circumstances change but where I instruct, if you put your right foot in - more than three times in those situations you fail your test regardless of road camber etc.

Are you an Olympic Hokey-Cokey judge? :nenau

Al

Norm · Dec 15, 2008

H.R.H. OONYACK said:
It is all well and good on a polis pan or RT to put your left foot down first as these are low bikes.
It is not always possible to do this on Adv bikes due to the hieght.
An example of someone putting there left foot down first on a camber and toppling over is due to bad observation and poor instruction from the IAM type kunts

It is always possible to have a lowered seat fitted to a GSA, which is about as relevant and accurate a comment as the one you make about IAM knut's instruction. :augie

Other than that, generally I love your work. :comfort

Norm

Norm · Dec 15, 2008

Zundapp said:
Ignore the experts - just do whatever you think's best. For you.

Flipfly · Dec 15, 2008

We've alredy had 185,000000000 pages of this before so I'll conclude with:

"Do WTF you like as long as you stay on"

(I'm a hendon shuffly bloke which was right, then it was wrong, and is now ok in certain circles and a deadly sin in others. I've done it for 18 years and thankfully it has not killed me once yet, that's not to say it might not get me in the end :blast

).

Micky · Dec 15, 2008

Flipfly said:
We've alredy had 185,000000000 pages of this before so I'll conclude with:

"Do WTF you like as long as you stay on"

(I'm a hendon shuffly bloke which was right, then it was wrong, and is now ok in certain circles and a deadly sin in others. I've done it for 18 years and thankfully it has not killed me once yet, that's not to say it might not get me in the end ).

You took yer time Flip :augie

... and just for the record I agree with ya

STUBBS · Dec 15, 2008

the one you feel most happiest with :thumb2

Loiq · Dec 15, 2008

if you've only got one leg I suggest you use that one first

Bryn · Dec 16, 2008

Blackal said:
Are you an Olympic Hokey-Cokey judge?

Al

Drum roll for the first laugh of the day

Reckon the consensus is.... if you're doing a test... jump through whatever hoops you need to jump through to pass... otherwise do what you feel happy with and bollocks to everyone

Uinneag · Dec 16, 2008

Norm said:
It is always possible to have a lowered seat fitted to a GSA, which is about as relevant and accurate a comment as the one you make about IAM knut's instruction.

Other than that, generally I love your work.

Norm

Whatever ye think yourself :thumb2

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