£7000 for a w-reg at a dealer. Too much?

[StooL]

C'mon guys, that's a fair price!

But you could buy my Mandarin 2000 W reg with ABS and 28,0000 miles for £6000.......bargain!

Seriously thouugh, I bought my bike two years ago with only 10k on the clock privately for £6k.

Personally I think some dealers are on hard drugs. Especially the ones in Edinburgh. They overprice their secondhand bikes so much that they sit with the same stock for months. I guess the benefit of this is that they sell more new bikes because there's next to no difference between the price of a new un and a three year old!

Get a mate who knows what he's looking at to go with you if you're not comfortable buying privately. I'm sure most from this forum would help you out if you don't know anyone. IMHO buying from a dealer is not worth the extra expense unless you can't find what you want privately. Their warranties really aint up to much and its a GS so it doesn't really carry the same risk as a Ducati.

 

[sproggy]

FWIW, Hughenden M40 have a 2000 1150GS 22k miles on their website www.hughendenm40.co.uk for £5,999. Still a bit high but they may haggle.

Not any more - I bought it yesterday

Non-ABS (which is what I wanted), panniers and topbox, Spyball alarm, Remus Y-piece and Revolution can plus standard cat and can. Full main dealer history.

The best bit is they're swapping the bodywork for me so it'll wear 2002 blue/white with black seat instead of original silver with red seat.

But I have to wait until Sat 29th to collect it. Next week will be a long one.....

 

[Le singe]

Non-ABS? How are you gonna stop the thing without mechanical aid,think of your now reduced life span,anyone would think you could ride a bike properly!

 

[sproggy]

Well I wear a CE approved helmet, plus jacket and trousers with CE approved armour, armoured boots, and carbon fibre re-inforced gloves. All that CE approval means that the EU considers me to be completely safe so if I'm about to crash I'll just jump off before the point of impact. I don't need to stop.

In fact, my clothing is so safe that I probably don't need brakes at all, let alone ABS ones... I am invincible, I am a human Volvo, I am........just going for my medication.

 

[Paul Wakefield]

Sproggy,

You just ruined my 2nd post on the subject! I made a flying visit to Hughenden when passing this pm & I spotted "yours" had been sold for delivery on 29th.

I also saw a Y reg 49k miles non ABS 1150 in Blue & White for £4,299 there.

A quick glance showed the cosmetics as a bit tatty but not too bad and at that price you could do it up and still have change. A longer look would be required. But I suppose this is where your Blue and White kit is coming from. Still even in Silver & red, can't be bad - Did you look at it? If so, what is the condition really like (I literally stopped for 30secs to pass on the info for Ian).

Paul

 

[sproggy]

Paul, yes, the blue and white kit is coming from that 49k bike as its bodywork is surprisingly good and, as they said, at £4,299 it didn't matter what colour it was! I did have a look at the bike, although not in too much detail, and the fork bottoms are hammered by stonechips to the point where there's no orginal paint/coating left. Other than that it didn't seem too bad but as you say it would need a REALLY good check over before purchase. Despite the mileage it has, though, been through only three winters so from a corrosion point of view it didn't seem any worse than the 2000 model.

I was tempted for a brief time but as I cover 10 - 12k miles per year I wanted a bike with a bit more life left in it. From my point of view the 49k bike already had 2 and a half years extra wear and tear on it compared to 'my' 22000 mile example. But a lot of bike for the money at £4,299 and I got the distinct impression that they'd be open to offers because few people are willing to take on a bike with that mileage.

Certainly if someone's looking for an 1150 on a tight budget it would be well worth a closer look - you won't find many cheaper.

Ian

 

[Paul Wakefield]

Tempted myself as a winter hack. But, apart from the minor point that I haven't got the money, I'd be slaughtered by the other half.


Paul

 

[Cheesy Mike]

What is good about all this is that the value of used 1150's hasn't gone through the floor with the introduction of the 1200. IMHO, if I might be so bold as to suggest, the value of 1150's will remain firm because the 1200 is definitely not the bike for everybody (just as the 1150 wasn't for 1100 riders when it first came out). I suspect the value of the 1150 will be generally high for some time to come unless BMW do something really spectacularly good when they bring out the new Adventure.

Mike

 

[crampie]

IMHO buying from a dealer is not worth the extra expense unless you can't find what you want privately. Their warranties really aint up to much and its a GS so it doesn't really carry the same risk as a Ducati. [/B]

I'm obviously not going to comment on other dealers used bike prices or some dealers alternative 'warranties' but I can tell you that any used bike with a 12 month 'Approved Used' warranty from a BMW dealer should be a very good purchase.

The bike has to meet very high standards before being sold as 'Approved' and includes being serviced as neccessary (if within 1500 miles of it's next service), tyres replaced if less than 2mm on the front, 3 mm on the back and list of other items as long as your arm (well nearly).

I'd be happy to show any prospective customer exactly what will be/has been done to any of our Approved Used bikes.

Regards

Crampie

 

[jimbo]

I'm obviously not going to comment on other dealers used bike prices or some dealers alternative 'warranties' but I can tell you that any used bike with a 12 month 'Approved Used' warranty from a BMW dealer should be a very good purchase

Sorry I disagree. I looked at 2 used 1100 GS at a B*W dealer. Only when looking at the log books at the end did I spot both were german imports. Speedos had been changed and service history was Negligible and in German. I expect to keep the bike rather more than just 12 months.

regardless of how carefully checked (short of a complete stip-down), I thought both were in the 'walk away' category.
I was genuinely surprised to find a franchised dealer selling suck dubious bikes.

 

[mpriestley]

name and shame

care to let us know where this dealer operates? ...just so's we know...

 

[sproggy]

I was genuinely surprised to find a franchised dealer selling suck dubious bikes.

But presumably the dealer (and B*W UK in terms of the warranty) were willing to stand behind those bikes, having checked them out before making them available for sale, or at least with the intention of doing so before delivery. Just because they were imports with incomplete documented SH doesn't mean that they were bad bikes.

Being realistic, anything that's wrong with a bike when you buy it will become apparent within a few hundred miles in most cases - a year should certainly be enough time to get any problems ironed out. And I've found B*W dealers to be brilliant when it comes to sorting warranty issues.

 

[crampie]

Sorry I disagree. I looked at 2 used 1100 GS at a B*W dealer. Only when looking at the log books at the end did I spot both were german imports. Speedos had been changed and service history was Negligible and in German. I expect to keep the bike rather more than just 12 months.

regardless of how carefully checked (short of a complete stip-down), I thought both were in the 'walk away' category.
I was genuinely surprised to find a franchised dealer selling suck dubious bikes.

Can't comment on the condition of these bikes or the dealer selling them but a used BMW cannot be sold as 'Approved Used' Bike unless the service history is brought up to date (as well as all the other stuff). Imports aren't neccessarily a bad thing but on the rare occasion we sell an import we always advertise the fact and this is generally reflected in the price (I can count the number of Imports we've sold on one hand!). We tend to stick to good quality, low mileage UK bikes where possible.

Regards

Crampie

 

[Ian]

Sorry I disagree. I looked at 2 used 1100 GS at a B*W dealer. Only when looking at the log books at the end did I spot both were german imports. Speedos had been changed and service history was Negligible and in German. I expect to keep the bike rather more than just 12 months.

regardless of how carefully checked (short of a complete stip-down), I thought both were in the 'walk away' category.
I was genuinely surprised to find a franchised dealer selling suck dubious bikes.

Which dealer please? I'm going to see one tomorrow and need to know!!!