► Chains, oilers, sprockets

[sijohnston]

for what it's worth, all those running scottoilers or equivalent on the mongolia trip i've just done, cursed them and wouldn't fit such a thing again. if you're doing european asphalt only, then perhaps, but if anything off-road, forget about it, buy a tin of good lube.

 

[Dean]

Yep there great for the Tarmac I can vouch for that , reduced my scot oil delivery to the minimum recently (a lot of peeps have it set way to high and get a big slik) had six days through the Alps about 2300 miles (3701 K) filled the scot oiler before I left returned with a third left in it. had mixed weather sun ,rain, a dusty ride up the Colle Sommelleiller, more rain, snow, more sun, wind

Most of the guys and girls that ride far to get off road crunch more miles on the tarmac than off

Its a practical thing to have, yea sure it does deposit it on the rear wheel but its no big Deal some times its good to actualy wash your bike maybey its a protectant i sometimes give the chain a decoke as in remove all oil, grit etc re lube, a healthy chain is a happy one and you get extra space in the luggage department more pants


Yep the scotoiler is Practical

 

[Dave Ett]

Yep there great for the Tarmac I can vouch for that , reduced my scot oil delivery to the minimum recently (a lot of peeps have it set way to high and get a big slik) had six days through the Alps about 2300 miles (3701 K) filled the scot oiler before I left returned with a third left in it.

Ditto. It really takes very little oil to keep the chain lubed.

The problem with all the spray on stuff is that it's sticky to resist fling. Flip side of that it means grit sticks to it too, so creating a grinding paste.

 

[dogman]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CASTROL-MOTOR...47?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3360e44143

 

[ide508]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CASTROL-MOTOR...47?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3360e44143

Also using that lube, just perfect !

 

[GunZenBomZ]

Esystem Scottoiler F800GS

Okay this is my brief story in images of fitting my esystem kit.


Lets get it on!

Controller unit fitted, power lead goes to the battery..

Locate pump lead & plug 'n' play

WRONG WAY UP Pump & Reservoir unit location

Corrected, do'h.. (who said "Did you read the instructions?" *Shush*)

Dual injector/header/feeder thingie fitted with temporary grey zip ties.

Check it looks good @night, check!

All done & dusted with an extra clean on top.

Link for instructions; http://www.scottoiler.es/docs/esystem/eSystem_Installation_en.pdf

 

[Greggers]

Nicely done Paddy - now all you need to do is get your bike dirty!!

Hey d'ya want to come to my Austin Vince night??

G

 

[Dean]

Hi Paddy,

That looks like a good system! good sequence of fitting pictures there

How does it differ from the standard Manual scot oiler?

And what can you do via the screen on your handle bars Menu-Set ??


your bikes looking good I almost did not recognise it as when I see you out and about its always well erm filthy dirty

 

[GunZenBomZ]

Hey d'ya want to come to my Austin Vince night??

G

Will Lois be there

Yes G,...however my next two saurdays are working ones.

How does it differ from the standard Manual scottoiler?

And what can you do via the screen on your handle bars Menu-Set ??

Hello Dean, I bought a manual scottoiler off Jon, http://www.everywherevirtually.co.uk/. But decided not to fit it & wait & see what the crack was with this kit. It doesn't require plugging into the bike other than power, which is good for a simpleton like me!

Once its setup you can just keep an eye on the reservoir & it turns itself on automatic & start oiling at the level you choose,..it glows blue

 

[Dave Ett]

It doesn't require plugging into the bike other than power, which is good for a simpleton like me!

Er, the standard one requires pulling off a cap, and pushing on a cap with a spout. No disassembly required.

FAR easier than removing six screws, lifting the battery cover, unscrewing the battery terminals & fitting the new ring loops, refitting the battery cover, routing the wires and mounting the controller!



Good write up all the same, and I'll be interested to see how an electronic version can be better than the simplicity of the original.

 

[curiousexplorer]

why?

hi, Gunz, you don't need oilers if you have, as I see on your bike, an X-ring chain. The oil will never get to the place where it's most needed, between pins and rollers, the only thing you have to do is keep the sprockets a bit greasy with a little chain-lube every 500km or so, to prevent rust. the rollers make hardly any rotational movement on the sprockets, my chains last me 25000 at least, certainly here because the chain is designed for much more power than the F800 delivers. Now you only get the rear of the bike oily and dirty. greetz, hans

 

[Micky]

Just to report that the heavy duty DID525ZVM2 chain fitted in July last year (with new sprockets) has now done 26,000 miles and will be replaced this next few days.

It is still serviceable but has a tight spot and when adjusted to this is very slack elsewhere

No Scotoiler fitted, just sprayed as and when with the Polo chain spray I mentioned in an earlier post. A lot of the mileage has been off road or very bad roads... Eastern Turkey, Iran and Pakistan etc.

I had fitted a similar chain earlier but fitted new to do the trip on. That first chain and sprockets had only done 7,000 miles and so I'm quite happy to put them back on

You can give me a chain any day rather than a 1200 shaft

 

[ILMV]

1) Best way to clean a chain? 2) Recommended chain oil

1) Cleaning the chain

So every month or so I usually spray my chain with a bit of chain cleaner and get a rag and spend ages cleaning the chain down.

The problem I have is I find it difficult to clean the inside edge of the chain and even after a good amount of time the chain is still bloody dirty.

I've read about soaking the chain in certain liquids to clean it up, is this wise and if so what should I soak it in?

2) Oiling the chain

What do you guys recommend for oiling the chain on a regular basis? I'm currently spraying a Castrol oil on, but I am doubting its performance.

 

[Michael R1150GS Adventure]

When i had a bike with a chain i found Castrol Chain Wax amazingly clean to use.
I cleaned the chain with a strong brush and WD40 - NOT chain cleaner, as this sucks deep into the bushes and removes a lot of useful grease in there. After that i hose down NOT with a pressure washer, dry then soak in wax again.

Job done

Lasts about 500miles.

Obviously that is just my method and no-one else should follow my advice as i am probably wrong and this is not the way to do it... but you did ask!

 

[mudmatt]

As above but you need to lube more frequently especially during wet weather

 

[yalcrabm]

look at wurth chain lubes as they have a wide range of lubes and cleaners. I use to use them on the klr650 all the time.

 

[EmmettC]

I use a brush like this http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/
with whatever chain cleaner is around at the time.

I always use Yamalube chain oil these days, I started using it because I live beside a yamaha dealer, but it's really good. It looks quite wet and oily, so you don't get that waxy build up some of them leave, but it doesn't fling off the chain at all. I put it on after a ride while the chain is still warm, and leave it overnight, and the even the dodgy CZ chain lasted fine till the recall

 

[ILMV]

Cool, thanks for the advice so far guys.

What about soaking a chain? I've read that this can get it looking new again.

 

[Hustler]

Cool, thanks for the advice so far guys.

What about soaking a chain? I've read that this can get it looking new again.

I guess you could get a chain looking like new again but I've never bothered and can't really see the point tbh.
Clean mine with paraffin and oil it with whatever I happen to have in stock at the time.

 

[(RIP) Tunneruk]

soak a rag in some diesel and 'wank' the chain off with it so to speak.

I use Silkolene chain lube. Seems to work great.