► Don't they crash well!
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A 1200 just won't do the majority of stuff that a bike 50+ kgs lighter will, and I'm not talking about ripping up the world
A novice could do tame, flat-ish tracks on the bigger GS's but they will quickly struggle on significant mud, rocks, slopes. That's fairly self-evident I would have thought ?
Gaz,
what have you found the 1200GS not able to do ? Would be nice to know what limitations others have found before finding them myself.
Gaz
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It's really hard to say without actually being out there, but there's a consensus amongst the more experienced off-roaders (folks with much more experience than me) that lanes are either GS-friendly or not. This is how the routes will be devised/divided at the upcoming AdvRider and Baskerville weekends in Wales. So regardless of rider ability, some lanes, indeed many lanes at certain times of the year, are not GS-able. That improves in the summer obviously.
Conversely, if you stick the same rider on a variety of bikes, to remove one obvious variable, there will be lanes he could complete on e.g. KTM 300 (pogo) that he couldn't on an XChallenge (dual-sport) or a big GS, and there will be lanes the KTM and XCh could do that the GS won't. IMHO the gap between the KTM and the XCh is smaller than the gap between the XCh and the GS. Regardless of other factors, the defining factor is always weight it seems.
This is a real phenomena and has come up every time we've been out this winter. Garry H is usually on a GS of some sorts and he is a very good rider, but the route has to be tailored to where the GS can go. Me/Robbie/Louis then have fun behind him on the (usually) smaller bikes.
Conversely, if you stick the same rider on a variety of bikes, to remove one obvious variable, there will be lanes he could complete on e.g. KTM 300 (pogo) that he couldn't on an XChallenge (dual-sport) or a big GS, and there will be lanes the KTM and XCh could do that the GS won't. IMHO the gap between the KTM and the XCh is smaller than the gap between the XCh and the GS. Regardless of other factors, the defining factor is always weight it seems.
This is a real phenomena and has come up every time we've been out this winter. Garry H is usually on a GS of some sorts and he is a very good rider, but the route has to be tailored to where the GS can go. Me/Robbie/Louis then have fun behind him on the (usually) smaller bikes.
twisticles
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Hey, that's the bike I was due to do the o/r course 22/23 April on.
Wonder if I'll get my money back?
Hey, I'm going there on the 223rd/24th. Level 1. Glad its your bike got buggered and not mine
Tindjin
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Sure seemed like if it did just that. What other kind of damage was there? Frame/forks?
Really can't wait for these to be releasted in the UK's ungrateful bastard child of a country.
(RIP) petcul
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Hey, I'm going there on the 223rd/24th. Level 1. Glad its your bike got buggered and not mine
Swop? Gwon, gwon, gwon, gwon, gwon
Argonaught
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Bugger
I've just cracked my front mudguard paddling backward with the disc lock still on
It didn't put up much of a fight.
Arse.
I've just cracked my front mudguard paddling backward with the disc lock still on
It didn't put up much of a fight.
Arse.
i8lusaka
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So thort time together but It was fun while it last
Today I had a very nice day out with a friend riding in the area around Box Hill and Eastbourne.
On my way home I stopped at a read light at the crossing 5 ways corner. When it turned green I took of and so did an idiot in a car from left who had read light, I smashed in to his rear and made a somersault landing on his boot.
The fork took some beating and the bolt that holds the steering column snapped and there are a gap in the bearing.
I am ok but pain in my wrist and very angry.
Today I had a very nice day out with a friend riding in the area around Box Hill and Eastbourne.
On my way home I stopped at a read light at the crossing 5 ways corner. When it turned green I took of and so did an idiot in a car from left who had read light, I smashed in to his rear and made a somersault landing on his boot.
The fork took some beating and the bolt that holds the steering column snapped and there are a gap in the bearing.
I am ok but pain in my wrist and very angry.
Shit, glad you are ok, relatively speaking........get fixed quickly
No matter how many times you do the right thing, go about your business in a decent and proper manner, some stupid **** will abdicate their responsibility to do the same. Accidents don't happen, they are caused.
Hope you're ok.
Hope you're ok.
That's really rotten luck. Hope your wrist is soon better and also your new baby! Looking on the bright side, at least it wasn't worse!
Argonaught
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Sorry to hear about your accident i8lusaka, I hope you both make a full & spedy recovery.
There but for the grace of <insert deity of choice> go us all...
(& what dosen't kill you makes you, um angry...)
There but for the grace of <insert deity of choice> go us all...
(& what dosen't kill you makes you, um angry...)
Glad you're okay.
I know this is well after the event, but one of the things most hammered into me on my Bikesafe course was "let the lights change to green then select 1st and ride off. Anyone running the red normally does it just as it changes and this gives you that little bit extra to miss them......"
Works too.................are you really in that much of a hurry? Never had anyone toot me with their horn for being slow off the mark either.
I know this is well after the event, but one of the things most hammered into me on my Bikesafe course was "let the lights change to green then select 1st and ride off. Anyone running the red normally does it just as it changes and this gives you that little bit extra to miss them......"
Works too.................are you really in that much of a hurry? Never had anyone toot me with their horn for being slow off the mark either.
i8lusaka
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Thanks mate the sad part was that i just did that it turned green i took a look at the dash a clear green N put in 1´st and of i went even cars on my side was going but that did not stop the guy in the car rushing to the other side. Or as he put it " I saw the other cars on the other side move of so I thought I would make it"
i8lusaka
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This morning a red 07 TDM 900 arrived as my replacement bike while my 800 is at the German doctor being looked after.
So I am back on Kamikaze bike for a time again
So I am back on Kamikaze bike for a time again
i8lusaka
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I just come back from BMW Battersea and it is a writ off
So now I probably have to wait to September to get a new one. The other cars incurans company are trying to put the blame on me as well. Thay are saying I hit him in the rear. ye he f*****g run a read light and stooped in front of me so no shit Sherlock
So now I probably have to wait to September to get a new one. The other cars incurans company are trying to put the blame on me as well. Thay are saying I hit him in the rear. ye he f*****g run a read light and stooped in front of me so no shit Sherlock
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The other cars incurans company are trying to put the blame on me as well. Thay are saying I hit him in the rear. ye he f*****g run a read light and stooped in front of me so no shit Sherlock
I would be asking around for a good solicitor to fight this if i were you
The other insurance will always contest and that is when you need a good solicitor to kick their ass
Mrs Radar_UK
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Sorry to hear the bike is a write off, you must be gutted
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Sorry to hear the bike is a write off, you must be gutted
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