► Don't they crash well!

[mrgood]

question about instrument panel on f800gs

Hello,
I`ve managed to crash my f800gs. My bike has arrived with on-board computer on it. Instrument table is busted. Speedometer, and rev-meter are working, but
LCD display that is on the right side of panel is busted. Does anyone here knows
is that on-board computer behind the LCD panel or is it just a screen that shows info that computers sends him. I was wondering can I order new instrument table and just plug it in myself, or do I have to go to the dealer, because he has to transfer some data. Thanks!

 

[mrgood]

Huh, no opinions on this?

 

[chrisjk]

I can offer an opinion but you might want something more like certain knowledge!

FWIW, in my opinion, the ECU wherever it is located is likely to perform all computing tasks including general purpose stuff as well as engine management stuff, so the screen is most likely just a display unit.

 

[Magwych]

Huh, no opinions on this?

Guess you are at the leading edge

Let us know how you get on ...

 

[Polak]

Sadly, i had an off just over two weeks ago. Thankfully, i was only doing around 35mph on a country lane. I came round a bend and had to take evasive action to avoid 2 horse riders, who had decided to ride all over the narrow lane.

I didn't fancy a Captain Harris Police Academy type moment, so slammed on the brakes. The result ? the bike crashing on top of me. My right shoulder taking the brunt of the impact.

Luckily only had cuts and bruises, bruised ribs and muscular damage to my right shoulder.

Very tearful the next morning when i saw what was left of my beautiful new bike. Coincidentally my first bike

I can vouch for the fact that they are fragile. At 35 MPH, items that need replacing are:

New tall windscreen
Upper Mudguard
Front Mudguard Extension (Tour-A-Twat)
Lower Front mudguard
L&R front fork assay
Upper and Lower fork yokes
Handlebars
R/H bar end weight
R/H Mirror
R/H front indicator
R/H fairing side panel and badge
R/H riders footrest
Rear Sub-Frame



An expensive mistake, and a serious dent to my pride. My dealer so far has been great, should have bike back in a couple of weeks. My shoulder should have healed then and time for me to book myself on more bike training. Just hope next time i fall of wont be as bad

 

[billynomates]

A 1200 just won't do the majority of stuff that a bike 50+ kgs lighter will, and I'm not talking about ripping up the world
A novice could do tame, flat-ish tracks on the bigger GS's but they will quickly struggle on significant mud, rocks, slopes. That's fairly self-evident I would have thought ?

So how come all the instructors in Wales ride ADVs and then do twice the amount of tricky stuff the rest of us would like to do.
i got a mental block on the 1200 in the pit on one steep section of climb so the bastard took me up on pillion and then took me down a steeper section,never been the same since.
its not the bike its the rider
if you want to hop rocks get a BMX.

 

[sijohnston]

off too

Polak, me too, and similar accident. I had an off on sunday morning on a graveled and wet country road. I came around a country road bend in the Holywood hills doing about 45mph and the back wheel snaked on the gravel. It caught grass and then standing water on the left verge, the back wheel kicked round, and I went down under the bike.

We both slid across the road and up the road about 15-20 meters. The bike came out relatively unscathed. The givi crash bars bent on the impact (as they seem designed to do) and the only damage the bike took was the right passenger foot peg. As for me, bruised up leg and butt, but the rev'it suit took the brunt and I hobbled away relieved. I'd say the bikes are very well made and the gouges in the tarmac indicated that the road took more than the bike. My first bike too...but managed 9000 miles before an off, so hopefully the last.

Hope you get well soon mate...

 

[Gaz]

its not the bike its the rider

Hysterical

 

[billynomates]

Hysterical

The classics are always the best

Go on nip down to Wales and show Simon how too Ride a GSA I m sure he'd love some lessons on the new BMW 450 too
ian

 

[everywherevirtually]

the rev'it suit took the brunt and I hobbled away relieved.

Ahh ha... so now that the Revit suit has crashed and burned you'll be in the market for a yellow Santiago jacket which would then make you my doppelganger

I had a near one last week. A guy did a U-turn in the middle of the road where he shouldn't have been doing a U-turn. He pulled right across my path just as I was beginning to open up the throttle. I managed to slam on the brakes and the ABS kicked in. I literally bounced the front wheel off his wing and just managed to hold it. Then the twat opened is door and I lost my balance. I slowly laid the bike down but in doing so scratched my windshield and his door

The bike sustained only minor scratches to the plastic screen which I managed to remove with a soft coth and brasso of all things! Damn close!

You just can't predict what car drivers will do. You can only anticipate as best as you can. That guy was parked on double yellows behind other cars and looked stationary. I kept the usual distance away in case someone opened a door but you never expect a stationary car to go into a 180 degree turn just as you are passing it.

 

[Gaz]

The classics are always the best

Go on nip down to Wales and show Simon how too Ride a GSA I m sure he'd love some lessons on the new BMW 450 too
ian

Try reading what I actually wrote not what you think I've said.

You seem to have based your opinion of what is a suitable learner bike on your attendance at the BMW off-road school. Have you tried anything else? I doubt it because if you had you would realise that the bike is a major factor and it's obviously not just the rider as you claimed. It's both.
I guarantee that this is the opinion of all the experienced off-roaders on here, that's why they have different bikes for different conditions.
You don't have to be an off-road God to know this (I'm certainly not). Just try riding different bikes across the same difficult terrain. Just because you saw some better riders than you take the 12 over ground that you can't manage doesn't mean the 12, even with those riders on board, will go anywhere. If you think it will, you haven't done enough tracks. Fact.
This concept should be easy enough to grasp even by someone of your, shall we say, challenging intellect.
If you have the nerve, come to Wales (we're there every weekend) and we'll show you exactly what the limits are for your chosen bike.

 

[F650Dakar_Norway]

Try reading what I actually wrote not what you think I've said.

I just bought an F800GS three weeks ago and also own an '04 F650GS Dakar now being dedicated for winter riding with studded tires. I simply let weight considerations decide my choice after considering the 12 GSA as one of the candidates in addition to KTM 990 Adventure and the F800GS. I ride all-year and never bothered to take a car license during my present 30 years of riding

I agree that the heavier boxer series have some physical challenges and chose the 800GS after having seen a couple of fatigued fellow riders on big boxers dropping their bikes after several hours riding. This was especially evident at the Norwegian Bike Mountain Adventure in 2006 where our instructor was Dakar-rally guru Paal Anders Ullevaalsaether.

Although the hardline boxer-afficionados argue that the GSA can do any conceivable dirt-track work I would not feel as confident doing dirt-roading on such a big and heavy bike. Quite simply because I'm spoiled and conditioned to tarmac-riding and have little experience in off-tarmac riding.
My limitations would surface earlier on the heavy GSA - no doubt - and I also want to pick that thing up alone after I drop it - which I've seen is not always possible with the bigger GSA during physically exhausting all-day dirt-rides.

It's also obvious that many vastly experienced dirt-riding instructors transfer their hard-earned skills over to the big GSA when riding it - hence making it look easy. The limitations of the novice- or dirt-road-inexperienced tarmac riders will however surface when handling such a big bike as the 12GS - at least after what I've seen on different gravel-rides. I've seen my mates drop their GSA's and they were more exhausted than me at my F650 Dakar at that point of the ride - so I simply stick with the lightweight bikes for my rides.

At 207kgs 90% tanked up the F800GS feels more rideable to me in the dirt than the 12GS series - and I'm very happy with that choice. The real problem nowadays is IMHO that crash bars etc. are not easily bought here in Norway due to excessive demand on the aftermarket suppliers. I've waited three weeks for the stock BMW crash bars for my 800 now and consider cancelling that order in favour of SW Motech bars.

 

[billynomates]

Try reading what I actually wrote not what you think I've said.

You seem to have based your opinion of what is a suitable learner bike on your attendance at the BMW off-road school. Have you tried anything else? I doubt it because if you had you would realise that the bike is a major factor and it's obviously not just the rider as you claimed. It's both.
I guarantee that this is the opinion of all the experienced off-roaders on here, that's why they have different bikes for different conditions.
You don't have to be an off-road God to know this (I'm certainly not). Just try riding different bikes across the same difficult terrain. Just because you saw some better riders than you take the 12 over ground that you can't manage doesn't mean the 12, even with those riders on board, will go anywhere. If you think it will, you haven't done enough tracks. Fact.
This concept should be easy enough to grasp even by someone of your, shall we say, challenging intellect.
If you have the nerve, come to Wales (we're there every weekend) and we'll show you exactly what the limits are for your chosen bike.

Hi Gaz
Sorry it was only a wind up my appologies
Wont take u up on the offer as Iam shit off road but learning,the point to this subject is if you can only afford one dual purpose bike that can cover long distances as well there are few too choose from.
I need to learn off road skills that suit the bike Im going to use it may well be unsuitable in some situations but were I live there is no suitable offroad facilitys so I need to travel.
ian

 

[Greggers]

Just bumping this thread...


I read this post a while ago and had a little chuckle at the fate of the 800 in the picture...

Then I bought an ex-ORS bike..... ummm an 800 in Magnesium ...errrrr ..... Now, having been there, I didn't recall seeing anything but bumble-bees in their fleet - I'm beginning to wonder whether my 'nearly new' bike has already been seen in this forum ...

Anyone remember its number...??

Greg

 

[kalli]

Just bumping this thread...


I read this post a while ago and had a little chuckle at the fate of the 800 in the picture...

Then I bought an ex-ORS bike..... ummm an 800 in Magnesium ...errrrr ..... Now, having been there, I didn't recall seeing anything but bumble-bees in their fleet - I'm beginning to wonder whether my 'nearly new' bike has already been seen in this forum ...

Anyone remember its number...??

Greg

There was one in my group Level 1 adv. on 12-13th of October. It was number 17.

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

Just bumping this thread...


I read this post a while ago and had a little chuckle at the fate of the 800 in the picture...

Then I bought an ex-ORS bike..... ummm an 800 in Magnesium ...errrrr ..... Now, having been there, I didn't recall seeing anything but bumble-bees in their fleet - I'm beginning to wonder whether my 'nearly new' bike has already been seen in this forum ...

Anyone remember its number...??

Greg

LOL

I wouldn't worry, from what I remember most (if not all?) the 800's were grey

Andres

 

[Billy Bunter]

mines quite tough!

Was trundling through Nouadhibou (Mauritania) yesterday when a geezer in an old Merc in a great hurry rammed into the back of me... stoved in his grill and crumpled his bonnet!! punted me over the handle bars and sent the bike sliding down the road... flying through the air i was thinking this was the end of my trip!

The metal mule panniers and frame took the initial rear impact and the sliding very well and the crash bars and Barkbusters saved the front end any serious damage. Was all a little out of shape front end and rear pannier frame but started first touch and rode to nearest guest house to loosen everything off and push back in the right direction again.

Today just rode it 500ks to Nouakchott and to be honest, apart from it looking a little more tired than it did previously! it rode fine and felt pretty good considering.

So, am happy with mines crashability although hope not to test it any further of course