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Not sure of the background of the reviewer but the comment about being breathless near 200kph is a ridiculous comment for a bike aimed at the long distance adv touring segment. A lazy overdrive gear that is economical at near legal speeds sounds pretty good to me. And a low first gear - isn't this the solution to the '1st gear too tall' problem that many people have complained about on the bigger boxers - if it lacks grunt then that could be an issue.
I will make my judgement when I get a test ride but to criticise a bike designed for one purpose with comments relevant to another is poor reviewing IMO.
 
A friend was telling me that he read an article indicating that this engine was engineered to be capable of being bored out to 1100cc............if this is the case, its another hint at the direction the BMW may be thinking of taking...............on the other hand it may be a load of aul bollix!

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From the link supplied by Twisticles...

I honestly reckon a lot of R1200GS owners would enjoy this bike a lot more than the 1200 because it's far nimbler at both high and low speeds. It's also a lot easier to pick up if you drop it...

I rest mi case... lotta you 1200 wannabe's gonna be upset :eek:

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800 gs.

look on the Daily Telegraph site, Kevin Ash has done a road test /review,
says all of the above but complains of vibes at normal crusing speeds. (shades of the old "Ks"?. WWW . daily telegraph .co.uk
Dave gs.
 
Just got these figures from the BMW website. The 800 is wider, longer, has a higher seat, and carries more kit than the 1200. And you don't get final drive seals blowing out either :augie
 

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1200 uses 4.3L of petrol per 100km @ 90kph = 465km per tank
800 uses 3.8L of petrol per 100km @ 90kph = 421km per tank

1200 uses 5.5L of petrol per 100km @ 120kph = 363km per tank
800 uses 5.2L of petrol per 100km @ 120kph = 307km per tank

Now, that means that the 800 does between 85-90% of the mileage for 80% of the fuel cost. That equates, at current fuel prices, to a 2L jerrycan for every two fills of petrol. So by the time you've filled your bike four times, the 800 will have a better mileage capacity than the 1200. As well as being 2.5k cheaper, and still about 14Kg lighter.

So nah!
 
twisticles said:
Yeah i did when I sat on it at the show...could almost get my heals down when it was on it's display stand....hoping when its off the stand its OK, or the bike stays at the dealers until a low seat arrives :eek:
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Errrrk.

Not wanting to cause sleepless nights but the yellow show bike with the natty Akra can was fitted with the low seat option at the NEC.:blast

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Might not have been the same at London though. :nenau:augie

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Outtomunch said:
Is it just me or is anybody else surprised that it's only 18kg lighter than a 1200 :nenau
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Yes, it shows how comparatevly light the 1200s really are. Boxers make both better torque and better horsepower per weight ratios, while having bigger engine, shaft drive and telelever(!)

But where the 800GS is aimed to - a middle CC class traile to fill the hole between monster 1000+CCs and 600CC class - it's finely tuned for it in performance, chassis geometry and weight terms IMHO. "A bit better offroad, a bit worse on the road and 2 up", vice versa for the 1200.

There exist no DO IT ALL 100% bike anyways so...

= more variety in BM-s lineup = more choices for the blokes (& blokesses) = people are more happy :thumb

Can't see any issue here with naming it girlie bike or whatever :nenau it's just another different fruit in the lineup.
 
Enthusiastic review of F658GS

I have an F650GS twin on order as a possible alternative to the 1200GSA, or maybe as a second bike so was interested in reading this from AdvRider...

we headed backwards on the same route (like mostly off-road) now mounted on the F650GS, mag wheels and all – yes I know all the BMW press has said that this is no off-roader, but off-road we took ‘em. Let me tell you folks – this little wunderkind is the unsung hero, with my jaded cranium now fueled with Espresso and not beer, I found myself chucking this little bugger around on the dirt with a huge grin on my dusty lips.

For a bike that’s not meant to be off-road – this one took everything that I threw at her – sure it doesn’t have the suspension travel that the big brother 800GS has, but it still handled the dust proper. If you’re a person who’s travelling down the West Coast and you see a dirt highway you want to investigate, but you’re worried coz your missus or some mates are on one of these – don’t be scared, the F650GS will handle it no worries mate. We ramped them, scraped them, bounced them across gravel and rocks, splashed them across water crossing and the tuff little buggers came out smiling!
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full words at http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6384895&postcount=4437
 
Marty Hill said:
He mentions a 3.5 gallon tank/assume and hope that is imp. gallons???
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16 litres. Not enough IMO and I don't care how economical it's supposed to be. Any adv/tourer that can't do over 200 miles before reserve is a waste of road space. And, who knows when reserve is hit and how far you can go on it? Even the old 650 has 17 litres.
 
Howard Millichap said:
16 litres. Not enough IMO and I don't care how economical it's supposed to be. Any adv/tourer that can't do over 200 miles before reserve is a waste of road space. And, who knows when reserve is hit and how far you can go on it? Even the old 650 has 17 litres.
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But 16L on the 800 engine will take you over the 200 mile mark :thumb

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The Bike Ewan and charlieshould have used?

The GS800 In MCN today!! They seem to rave about it , better in every way than the Behemouth GSA1200!! True off road ability lithe perky and fun .great engine and no real competition. Discuss:hide
 
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Must have reved the poor thing because they think you will only get 140 miles to a tank.BL**X.My last bike they said you could get 180 to a tank and I never got less than 220.
 
I think that the 800 engine is a peach after riding the F's at South London, and I said at the time that if they brought out a GS with that engine, my name would be on the waiting list.
However when I sat on it at the show, I could just think of the price comapred to the XT660Z Tenere.
You could buy two tenere's for the price of the BM, and I don't think that it is worth the extra cash after owning, green laning and touring on the sinilar XT660.

But due to my addiction to the brand, it is still one worth fighting the wife and the bank manager for me thinks.... LONG LIVE BMW.

Tosser, signing out.
 
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