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In my view the 800 isn`t any competition to the 1200 because it`s designed at a slightly different market which is more off road biased. I was in the US a while back and a dealer out there reckoned the 800 is 60/40 off road and the 1200 40/60 off road.

Like the look of it but it isn`t in any way comparable with my 1200 ADV. I`d sure miss the power, grunt, long haul ability and sheer road presence of the 1200. :thumb

Not sure I would enjoy a long haul down to Spain/Italy on a fully freighted 800...:eek:

It`s a completey different bike IMHO and in a different class.

Ooops, a little serious there:hide
 
I would like to see the F800GS loaded with all their equipment, and then do a test...

It would be a good bike for Ewans wife though. Does it drop better ?:aidan

If you look here, you'll see that the 800 can carry more weight than the 1200. The 1200Adv can carry 32Kg more than the 800. So that'll be about the weight of a spare set of shocks and a full Snap-on toolkit :augie

For those of us who don't carry quite as much as the two blokes who had a pair of 4x4s following them everywhere, 443Kg of extra gear should be more than enough. FFS, even with a full tookkit and camoing gear, I still only have about 25Kg on the back of the bike :rolleyes:
 
It's a funny old world

It's funny when you consider the original R80GS weighed over 400lbs and had only 50 hp, that some people on here consider the new bike to be a 'lightweight', for want of a better word. It's also quite funny the amount of people here would kill for an original R80GS, but dismiss the F800GS.
 

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See it is a girls bike:rob

Mans bikes parked up behind

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'Motorcycle Sport & Leisure' Mag arrived yesterday - with a test of the F800GS.

There is a lot on the history and the description and a bit on the riding experience. The main adverse comments were that the as-standard 'Battle Wings' were the wrong tyres for off-road use and that the brakes were inadequate for road use. The plus side is that it is narrower and lighter than the boxers, with good instrumentation and performance.

All in all it got a favourable write-up.

The next article was on a 'one-off' Ducati Enduro that had been built in America . . Now there's a stunning bike !

Bob.
 
The next article was on a 'one-off' Ducati Enduro that had been built in America . . Now there's a stunning bike !

Bob.

That'll be the Terra mostro then... I think you can buy them for 15k Dollars, although I think they just sold one of the early ones for for only 8k!!

Simply stunning bike!
 

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That'll be the Terra mostro then... I think you can buy them for 15k Dollars, although I think they just sold one of the early ones for for only 8k!!

Simply stunning bike!

That's the one.

I was wrong (having now read the article), its not a 'one-off', its a conversion of a 695 Ducati Monster.

You supply a donor bike to 'Overland Motorcycles, Brentwood, California, USA' (www.terramostro.com) and they will build you a stunning bike. Or I believe they can provide the complete package.

Interestingly, Ducati are reportedly working on an Enduro prototype. Wonder what it will be like ? (I keep fancying a Multistrada . . until I ride my 1150GSA :D).


Bob.
 
............watch this space.............

The next Longway Across/Up or whatever will have two sets of bikes........F800GS for off road, the big twin GS for the long bits.............. they will have the support of three 4x4's proabably a bike truck and oh yes and towing caravans so they will be in more comfort at night..........:eek:

................sorry they will use three bikes.......the F650 for the wives.......:augie
 
Will they bring out an adventure version of the new 800GS ? now that would be very nice with ally luggage, spots, full crash bars and knobblies.
 
It's easy to understand, trust me.

The new F650GS (which is an 800) was originally to be called the F800GS. Hence the 800 engine.

The F800GS was to be called the F800 Dakar.

Still with me ?

Some suit then realised that by doing this, they were losing the F650GS moniker and the latest X series of bikes wouldn't appeal to anyone who was in the market for a 'do all' model in that range as production of the F650 single was stopping.

SO, they decided to de-tune the F800GS, call it the F650GS and Bob's yer Uncle, the buying public would see that machine as the entry level bike in the BMW range.

That left the F800 Dakar. Well, they couldn't release that model with that name (just yet, but who knows !?), so it had the Dakar dropped and became the F800GS.

See ? German logic at its best. :thumb

More or less the word for word answer I recieved when I asked the UK sales manager while working on the BMW stand at the Scottish Bikeshow.
 
That's the one.

I was wrong (having now read the article), its not a 'one-off', its a conversion of a 695 Ducati Monster.

You supply a donor bike to 'Overland Motorcycles, Brentwood, California, USA' (www.terramostro.com) and they will build you a stunning bike. Or I believe they can provide the complete package.

Interestingly, Ducati are reportedly working on an Enduro prototype. Wonder what it will be like ? (I keep fancying a Multistrada . . until I ride my 1150GSA :D).


Bob.

I've just had a wee e-mail correspondence with Overland Motorcycles today. They've offered to loan me a Terra Mostro for a couple of days in June this year when SWMBO and I are in San Francisco.

I'll keep you posted.....:D
 
The terra mostro appeals:cool:

Whether the F800 would have been a better bike is surely a moot point as it wasn't available to them?
 
F650 Ride Mag review

The latest copy of ride dropped through my door yesterday and it contains a nice little review of the F650 from the same guy who did the previous review of the 800 if any one is interested.
 
The "Bike" Review

I have just read the review..... R1200Gs v KTM 990 ADV v F800 GS v Moto Guzzi.

I think in Summary the only real down side of the F800..... (If you do a lot of long distance travel) was that it did not do this very well. I had the new Bonnie some time back and I am sure that would crunch the miles if you wanted it to.

SO..... Has anyone on here done some serious mileage (obviously motorways, A roads) since buying theirs.... and can you comment on the ability both solo and two up. Very rarely do these mags actually put in the miles and therefore only give there impresion.... I would like it from the horses mouth.... so to speak.

Cheers and thanks for your help.

Stuart
 
I have just read the review..... R1200Gs v KTM 990 ADV v F800 GS v Moto Guzzi.

I think in Summary the only real down side of the F800..... (If you do a lot of long distance travel) was that it did not do this very well. I had the new Bonnie some time back and I am sure that would crunch the miles if you wanted it to.

SO..... Has anyone on here done some serious mileage (obviously motorways, A roads) since buying theirs.... and can you comment on the ability both solo and two up. Very rarely do these mags actually put in the miles and therefore only give there impresion.... I would like it from the horses mouth.... so to speak.

Cheers and thanks for your help.

Stuart


How many miles would you like Bike to test the bike over ?

Was the 501 miles test route not sufficient to form their opinions that the seat was hard and the screen pretty useless ?

I agree most mags talk bollox,but Bike are definitely more thorough than most.
 
I have just done 1500 miles in 4 days through the west of France - including a 700 mile trip in one day. All in all, the bike review is fairly accurate;

I had the bike fully loaded with BMW vario panniers, a Kappa 48l top box and a Famsa tank bag (I was intending to stay longer than 4 days but the fishermens port blockade over there has seriously affected fuel supplies). The handling with all the weight was as balanced and faultless as without it and the engine was more than capable of hauling the whole lot along at 80mph or more with little effort. Over the 1500 miles, the bike returned an average of 58mpg using 98RON fuel.

After an hour in the saddle you need to move your rear about a bit or stop for a few minutes - the seat is not the most comfortable. You may want to consider a seat rug or similar, or go for an expensive Touratech touring seat (if they have any in stock!).

The handlebars do get a bit vibey over 85mph and can make your fingers tingle, although the standard bar ends on mine have been replaced with lighter items supplied with the BMW handguards - I think they were less vibey before. Stretching my fingers out every half hour or so helped alleviate the minor discomfort.

I'm 5'10" and found the screen to do an effective job at all speeds. No neck strain experienced at all.

I've always managed to find gripes about every bike I've ridden, so I consider the relatively minor points above to be far outweighed by the bikes good points - looks, power, handling, upright rider position, exhaust note.....etc.

The bike certainly draws alot of attention whether moving or parked, in France or England, and most comment that its "unique" styling is a hit.

Probably the best test of whether the minor points above spoil the bike at all was today. As soon as the sun came out, I hopped on and went for another 230 mile round trip to Bridlington.

My honest opinion. It is that good.
 
How many miles would you like Bike to test the bike over ?

Was the 501 miles test route not sufficient to form their opinions that the seat was hard and the screen pretty useless ?

I agree most mags talk bollox,but Bike are definitely more thorough than most.



sorry for the hijack :topic, and at the risk of being a mega saddo :hide, but Arsey 8, just who IS the luvverly laydee in your bottom avatar / moving screen clip thingummy dooberry wotsit ? Remarkable! :beerjug:
 


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