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F800GS Seat Height

Just ordered my F800GS and test rode one with the lower seat so I've ordered mine with that as well... not sure now:confused::confused::confused:

I didn't seem to be reachng the floor flat footed but that might have been because me strides were a bit tight round me spuds:eek:

Can people give me a bit of feedback on thier experiences with the lower / higher seat options and thier respective heights etc.

I want to make sure I've made the right choice.

(BTW I'm 5' 9" and probably twice as heavy as I should be)
 
I am about your height (1,80cm) and I have the standard seat. I reach the floor without problems. When I tried the demo bike with the low seat I thought that the standard one would be to high but it's not. I think the standard seat is a bit narrower so it ends up being about the same. I find it more comfortable as well, standing up seems a bit easier as well because the legs aren't as bent as with the low seat.

Cheers.
 
Low seat for me...

...but I'm only 5' 7". Chose the low seat because I had a low seat on my 1200GS and the standard seat height on the 800GS is higher. However the 800's seat is also narrower so it seems about the same as the 12 was.

So far the furthest I've done on it in one trip is just over 400 miles, and I only started to feel uncomfortable after about 325-ish miles.

Weight - I'm about 13st 7 or 86kg plus gear. I'm happy with the low seat.
 
hi. i am 5.10 ..13stone but with long legs..i tend to go for high seat bikes africa twins xt yamaha xr honda.but i found the standard seat very bad 45 miles was about the pain limit...the lower seat now fitted is fine, long day runs no problem and the seat to peg reach is fine ,this can also be improved by simply removing the rubbers ,vibration is not an issue
 
hi. i am 5.10 ..13stone but with long legs..i tend to go for high seat bikes africa twins xt yamaha xr honda.but i found the standard seat very bad 45 miles was about the pain limit...the lower seat now fitted is fine, long day runs no problem and the seat to peg reach is fine ,this can also be improved by simply removing the rubbers ,vibration is not an issue

I know what you mean about going for high seat heights. I'm an ex motocrosser so a high position is the one that feels most natural to me, but I think there is a distinct difference between short manic bursts round a muddy track and munching the miles. If I had bought the bike on spec I wouldn't of even considered the low seat but what you say seems sensible.

Low seats just aren't for girls then:thumb
 
The low seat is ideal for shorter riders who are buying the F650GS but when it's used by average height guys and galls on the F800GS it means for some people that the leg position and knee angle can be a bit cramped.

I spoke to one rider at the HUMM event in the Pyrenees who was suffering on long distances. My 'spec' is the other way round--using a normal height seat on the F650GS and then sticking an Airhawk on top means the leg position is great.

No doubt someone will come along at some stage with a peg lowering kit to compensate for lowered seats.

Tim
 
The low seat is ideal for shorter riders who are buying the F650GS but when it's used by average height guys and galls on the F800GS it means for some people that the leg position and knee angle can be a bit cramped.

I spoke to one rider at the HUMM event in the Pyrenees who was suffering on long distances. My 'spec' is the other way round--using a normal height seat on the F650GS and then sticking an Airhawk on top means the leg position is great.

No doubt someone will come along at some stage with a peg lowering kit to compensate for lowered seats.

Tim

What size Airhawk do you use Tim?
 
Hey, 1st post here but wanted to join the fun! Standard seat for me and at 5'8 it's OK. Just shift forward in the seat to the narrow bit and flat foot down. Received this from Graham @ Bykebitz on Air Hawk sizing - We would suggest the cruiser small for the rider and probably the pillion large for the passenger.

Hope that helps. By the way it's the classy grey one for me!

Cheers.
 
I have the lower seat on the F800GS and the cruiser small airhawk. It's great for long distance stuff but I do have to watch where I put my foot down when coming to a stop. Incidentally I'm 5' 7" (173cm) with an inside leg of 29" (73cm). :D
 
F800GS Suspension Settings

Has anyone tinkered around with the suspension setting yet on the F800GS.

I normally buy rice rockets straight out of the crate and rely on the manufacturers choice, but after testing the 800 at the weekend and then getting back on my bansai I realised how well balanced the Beemer was and how woefully bad my deadly ninja was.

Or is the GS just ok as supplied?
 
The suspention settings were fine for me without getting any aftermarket stuff. All I had to do was stiffen it up a little for the dirt that I ride.

You may notice the front dipping a little on front braking, but after a while you get used to it. ;)
 
Lowered my F800 gs

Hi
Just back from Germany after lowering my F800GS,seat height is now 790mm
with the low seat.
Have pictures and story,will see if I get time to wright up the story this evening.
I can say that the bike apart from lower seat and being able to flatfoot the bike,there is more posetive gains to be had.:D
Fishburger
 
Lowering my 800 GS

Hi
At last it was time to get my bike lowered,took off from Oslo Norway on 0500 in the morning to get the ferry across to Denmark at Larvik.
Took the new Speed Ferry cost 47 pounds including the bike , took 3,5 hr.
Super ferry,something to consider for crossing to Norway,when the Newcastle to Bergen ferry packs up.

Arrived at Nordhorn Germany at 20:30 and cheched in at the Inside Hotel.
Early up the next morning and drove to Wilbers Suspension at Alfred Mozer Straze.
Met up with a nice women,who told me that I had to go further down the street to the workshop.

They had me in the books and my bike was taken in straight away,and work started.

When you order they would like to have all your spesifics like weight,type of riding,street\offroad\passenger or not\luggage weight you usually carry on longer trips i.e to prefabricate the aft shock absorber to suite you riding style.

Coffy was served,and later lunch which they bought from outside.

I had coosen to go for the 60mm lowering after consulting with the forman in the shop,was afraid my bike would look like a chopper,but if so I could always revert to the normal hight or go for a 30mm lowering Wilbers do both.
Things took a little longer than expexted due to the fact that I came one day early,and this was only the second bike they have lowred,was told tthat the bike could be picked up the next morning at 10:00
They got a driver to take me back to the hotel.
Early up next morning after some beers and food in the hotel in the evening.

Bike almost ready when I came,had to cut the sidestand and reweld the bottom plate.

After the bike was on the floor,they adjusted the preload,and checked that everyting was 100%.

Took off for Oslo Norway at 12:30 arrived in Oslo the next morning at 04:00
1300 km distance.


And the bike:
I was very suprized when passing the first lorries,at high speed when there was no turbulens at all,can not compair with how it was like before ,when your bike and head was trown around like a rag doll,amazing.

No wind pressure on upper body,no stiff neck and the handling was superb.
Let go of the handlebars at 140km\hr and the bike just carried on as nothing had happend,absolutely amazed again.

How this come about I cant fully explain ,but air lower to the ground might be quieter or that the center of gravity has any influence,or is it the supurb Wilbers racing suspension that does the job on its own.Prabbely a comination off all factors.



As the trip home was done on motorways only, I took it out this morning to
test it on the twisted roads in my area,did 200km today all twisty roads,and
the bike handles like a raceing machine very confidence inspiering,did sharp left\right handers at speed I never usualy drive at,and the bike was rock steady.

I am a very satiesfied customer,the bike suite my needs\handles perfect and the best at last I can get both my feet planted on the ground:D

But can it go offroad?
Took the bike to a gravel road close to my house,no problems at all,as long as you stay on the gravel,and dont go off road with big rocks and boulders,which I personaly never do.

The road handling of the bike more than compensate for the upper echelon of the offroad capabilety i might have lost due to the fact that the bike is lower to the ground.

It has been said befor that if you want to better the bikes handling ,any bike,put the money in better suspension parts,I might say that I have never done a better investment in improving my bike,for my kind of riding.

The whole job took a day and ahalf and the cost was 1000 euro,including wrencing ,new shock absorber and new progressive springs up front.
Including hydraulic pre load adjuster.

I highly recommend Wilbers Suspension if you consider lowering your bike,not at all like other suspension companies that never answers the phone,or
e-mails.

ps my bike seatheight is now 790mm with the low seat.

Cheers
Fishburger
 

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I was very suprized when passing the first lorries,at high speed when there was no turbulens at all,can not compair with how it was like before ,when your bike and head was trown around like a rag doll,amazing.

No wind pressure on upper body,no stiff neck and the handling was superb.

ps my bike seatheight is now 790mm with the low seat.

did you have the low seat on the bike before changing suspension?

did they lower the front?

do you have the original windscreen or a lower one?
 
Hi
Had the low seat before i lowered my bike

Front is lowered and new progressive springs mounted

Same original wind screen

Fishburger
 
Funny thing. I do really think that staying safe/seen on a motorbike requires a little bit of theatrics. NOTE this is not a negative post, more of a philosophical conversation.

I personaly ride in a yellow/black helmet, jacket and bike as they are dramatic colours when combined, and very visiable. I also use engine noise when in congested areas to prevent people and cars moving infront of me. Both also provide ques of strength/domination it think. But riding positions is also vital, but any bike can do that.

I quite like the GS bikes (twin yellow/black & 12gs size) due to the theater of the bike. Sports bikes are mean/aggressive, enduros/gs are big, ruggard, and have presence.

So by lowering your 800gs,
1. do you agree with that there is an element of theater of riding a motorbike?
2. thus by lowering do you think you may have lost some of that theater?
 
Funny thing. I do really think that staying safe/seen on a motorbike requires a little bit of theatrics. NOTE this is not a negative post, more of a philosophical conversation.

I personaly ride in a yellow/black helmet, jacket and bike as they are dramatic colours when combined, and very visiable. I also use engine noise when in congested areas to prevent people and cars moving infront of me. Both also provide ques of strength/domination it think. But riding positions is also vital, but any bike can do that.

I quite like the GS bikes (twin yellow/black & 12gs size) due to the theater of the bike. Sports bikes are mean/aggressive, enduros/gs are big, ruggard, and have presence.

So by lowering your 800gs,
1. do you agree with that there is an element of theater of riding a motorbike?
2. thus by lowering do you think you may have lost some of that theater?

Hi
Yes the bike is lower,but to be seen on the road I always use a
Safety vest ,on top of my moto jacket,it is yellow\greenish,same as the coppers use,very popular in Norway and also seen them used all over Europa.
One thing you will notice is that when cars spot you in the mirrors they usualy slowdown to legal speed limit and pull over to let you pass,they can never be shure if it is a copper on the bike :)
My next "project" will be to fit Les Wassal hid lights,not because I need the extra light,but to bee seen better on the road.

I have had a few "flights" over the handlebars in my time(in my younger years) so by painfull experience you learn to drive defensive,and keep your distance to cars in front.

I agree with the theater appo,better looking like a x-mas tree than dead,I am not driving to look good(to old for that).
This year I sold my BMW ST,it came in "Kamikaze Grey" I got the whole bike painted in BMW Sun Yellow just to be seen on the road.

Fishburger
 
why not buy a 650 in the first place?

always puzzled me why some short people (I'm short) bought 12oo adventures and then tried to lower them. seems to be all about appearance and street cred.
 
When I returned to biking a couple of years ago I went for the "adventure" bike style primarily because when commuting it is nimble in traffic and i can see over most vehicles to spot possible trouble.

I assured SWMBO that taller means other people see me as well (I also go with high-viz in winter).

I also added high-intensity bulbs and confirm that most UK traffic sees me and pulls well over.

So safety is my driver for the bike style even if it does occasionally get a bit tippy-toe, wobbly at the lights.

(It does look fookin cool though :cool:)
 


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