1100, new battery, ran fine, now won't start.

[Vern]

Before you do that, try unplugging it out of that stupid plastic cover, and cleaning all the pins in the plug up. You could have grown spuds in mine,and it worked fine after that.

If that fails, I've got some hall sensors, but the multi pin plug has been cut off. You're more than welcome to give them a try if you want

 

[MMC]

I'll give it a go. Cheers Vern. And thanks for the offer too. They're not cheap, are they?

 

[MMC]

Latest report from NOG:

- Hall sensor OK.
- fuses/relays/plugs/connectors OK.
- valve clearances fine

They've now got the thing started though, and it'll run (albeit lumpily) but as soon as they open the throttle it coughs and dies.

Apparently compression on both pots is way down (50psi). And, more worrying, the exhaust valve on the LH cylinder is letting a lot of air through when it should be closed.

Worried. This has all the hallmarks of 'expensive' and 'time for a new one'.

 

[flatdog]

Seems strange to me that the spark disappeared has come back and now it has low compression. I'd be looking for a little more evidence before assuming the worst.
It may have had water in the fuel too.
Look for loose plugs/injectors if the compression suddenly drops after working on the bike.
Not helpful but just what I would be considering before the next step.

 

[Uncle Crumpet]

I'll give it a go. Cheers Vern. And thanks for the offer too. They're not cheap, are they?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/110783978018?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

these are not too bady priced.Dunno if their any good though.

 

[MMC]

Well, she's back!





And I'd have been stuffed trying to repair it, so pleased it went to NOG.

The NOG guys did a cracking job. Basically, it was fecked. So, after numerous tests the chaps took the heads off. Problem 1 - the PO had never heard of Copaslip, so the bolts were already like something off the Titanic before I got the bike. So off to the local engineering shop for helicoils and new fixings on exhausts etc. NOG sorted the exhaust valve that was playing up too.

So now the damn thing ran, but not properly. So more tests and discovered the front crank shaft sensor/pick up pulley spot weld had broken. The pulley and rotor were all attached with the fixing bolt, but the rotor was spinning inside the pulley. That meant the crankshaft sensor pick-up wasn't getting the right reading - hence the trouble running.

Apparently, there's a different combination of pulley and rotor nowadays, but NOG couldn't track one down - out of stock.

So instead they've re-welded the old rotor spot welds - and a new pick up sensor as the broken rotor had mashed the old magnet.

And, I have to say, the Panzer is now running superbly, so big thanks to Matt, Stu and all the other NOGgins. Top job.

 

[B4ndit]

Nice one and just in time for the break.

 

[MMC]

And the problem's back. Again.

NOG had managed to fix it - twice - but now it's back.

The bike's been fine, but had to leave it for a week and a bit. Now, same old same old - crank, crank, crank - no fire.

Called NOG and they've run out of ideas.

Bugger bugger bugger.

 

[duckspeed]

Question is again is it crank crank with no sparks? If you have sparks and fuel in the cylinder even shagged engines will do something. Back to basics methinks.

 

[justabof]

Is it the rotor welds giving up again? Have you had the newer-type parts fitted?

 

[MMC]

Is it the rotor welds giving up again? Have you had the newer-type parts fitted?

New rotor now, so should be OK.

I'm thinking the everlasting hell of an intermittent electrical fault. Oh goody.

Seems to happen when it's been sat without running for a few days. Not sure if that's just a correlation without being a cause though.

 

[MMC]

Tried it again this evening, just to see if she's being temperamental. Nope. Turns over happily but not firing. Time to check - yet again - for spark, fuel etc.

Oh joy.

 

[MMC]

OK - latest.

- plenty of fuel at cylinders
- no spark at all
- fuel pump primes when bike's in gear and pushed forward
- Hall sensor multiplug by the RH side of the tank cleaned and WD40ed. No difference.
- all fuses fine
- all relays fine

Anyone got a match?

 

[davegs]

Non starter

As Mr S. suggests looks like a hall sensor.

 

[MMC]

As Mr S. suggests looks like a hall sensor.

You'd have thought so, wouldn't you? But NOG have tested the Hall and it's apparently fine. Unless there's an intermittent fault...

 

[Steptoe]

OK - latest.

- plenty of fuel at cylinders
- no spark at all
- fuel pump primes when bike's in gear and pushed forward
- Hall sensor multiplug by the RH side of the tank cleaned and WD40ed. No difference.
- all fuses fine
- all relays fine

Anyone got a match?

You say no spark................ Did NOG check the coil ? .

 

[MMC]

You say no spark................ Did NOG check the coil ? .

Think they did-but I'll give them a call to make sure tomorrow. Would a degrading coil play up like this then?

 

[MMC]

NOG didn't call me back about the coil, but as I've just replaced the damn thing and the bike still won't start I'm guessing it's not that!

 

[Steptoe]

You say no spark................ Did NOG check the coil ? .

Think they did-but I'll give them a call to make sure tomorrow. Would a degrading coil play up like this then?

NOG didn't call me back about the coil, but as I've just replaced the damn thing and the bike still won't start I'm guessing it's not that!

Well well, looks like the coil and supply wasn't checked....

Glad the AA man did the simple check and sorted it out for you .

 

[(RIP) Kaister]

Well well, looks like the coil and supply wasn't checked....

Glad the AA man did the simple check and sorted it out for you .

huh ?

missed something there.

has a phone call happened ?

we need to know - we're on the edge of our collective seats - as it were - so to speak