1100GS right hand side knocking noise

[chod]

Hi all,

My lovely 1100GS is getting a bit 'knocky' from the right hand side. If I put pressure on the throttle body where the cable wheel is able to rotate on the body it removes the noise. I therefore think the bearing is shot in the throttle body housing ( if there is one?) Is replacing the throttle body easy or does it involve lots of hi-tech adjustments to be made when the new (or in my case read as 'used') part is fitted?

All advice would be really well received

Cheers all (especially Steptoe if you're out there)

Chod

 

[ianboydsnr]

Hi all,

My lovely 1100GS is getting a bit 'knocky' from the right hand side. If I put pressure on the throttle body where the cable wheel is able to rotate on the body it removes the noise. I therefore think the bearing is shot in the throttle body housing ( if there is one?) Is replacing the throttle body easy or does it involve lots of hi-tech adjustments to be made when the new (or in my case read as 'used') part is fitted?

All advice would be really well received

Cheers all (especially Steptoe if you're out there)

Chod

motorworks do a repair kit

http://www.motorworks.co.uk/bmw/pro..._15_30_FA_75&header_text=&header_text_image=0

 

[MattW]

Those ticker killers aren't repair kits and don't really have a good name from what I've read (they just try and load the spindle so it doesn't rattle in its shot bushing - a bodge at best).

I've read on here that Scriminger will properly rebuild a TB for about £50 - includes new bushes and butterfly. BrianR had his done by Scriminger and posted on here about it - might be wort PM'ing him.

M

 

[Stewart H]

+1 for Scriminger, the Ticker killer is pretty much a bodge, the kit of parts from Bing require some rather specialist tools to fit, for the money the Scriminger job is a proper, good as new overhaul

Stewart

 

[motobiker]

I'm happy with a 'bodge' - particularly one thats easy to fit and doesn't involve taking the bike over to sleaford and being without it for however long the job takes. When the throttle boddies NEED a refurb then I will be using scriminger... but until then a 'ticker killer' will do the job just fine.

£50 and being without the bike or £40 and silence plus continued use of the bike.. no contest as far as im concerned. Fitting this at the end of the month. Of course if it turns out to have been a horrible mistake I will put a post on here for you all to mock.

the 'bodge' will according to all I've read allow the two bodies to wear at a more equal rate and so it will make sense to have them both refurbed and be 'equal' as and when the dread day arrives and the work becomes necessary. Makes more sense to me taking this route as according to Scriminger themselves "The 4 valve R series are particularly prone to oil deposits in the throttle body, blocking the air by-pass channel" So why not have that job done when necessary and have the butterfly valves done at the same time.

seems odd to me that a site that positively revels in 'bodges' and cheap fixes turns its nose up at this simple fix. (I mean 'bodge')

 

[MattW]

btw.. If scriminger do the work I can't see how anything they will do will stop the racket coming back in due course.

You're right - they just make it 'as new' so another 40k and you'll probably need it doing again - that's down to BM's daft design. But 40k is plenty of riding.

seems odd to me that a site that positively revels in 'bodges' and cheap fixes turns its nose up at this simple fix. (I mean 'bodge')

Speaking personally, I've nothing against cheap fixes but bodges are a different matter. The trouble is the ticker killers aren't a cheap 'fix', they just mask the symptoms without fixing anything . But horses for courses - I'll be interested to hear how you get on with the ticker killer

cheers
Matt

 

[chod]

Knocking

Hi peeps,

Thanks for all the advice.
I have sent an e-mail to scriminger about his repair. Hopefully I can post it off to them and get it back fairly quickly once fixed.
As its only a few quid more than tickabillaaugie) option I think it's the way to go for me.

Thanks again

Chod

 

[Deleted account 111026]

I had the same problem with my number 2 R1100GS. The RHS throttle body shaft was loose and making a lot of noise.
I stripped it down and found there was O.05mm of wear on the shaft but the bush was worn oversize by about 0.1 mm.
I removed the old bush, (took about 2 minutes), then turned up a new bush.
I oil-stoned the cutting edges of an 8mm drill so the hole it bored was 7.95mm diameter then dressed the shaft, where it entered the new bush, with emery until it was a good fit.
Cost: one 8mm drill bit and about 30 minutes on the lathe.
It would be worth assessing the wear before you embark on a major repair as any competent precision engineers would be able to make bushes and fit them for you.

 

[Stewart H]

I had the same problem with my number 2 R1100GS. The RHS throttle body shaft was loose and making a lot of noise.
I stripped it down and found there was O.05mm of wear on the shaft but the bush was worn oversize by about 0.1 mm.
I removed the old bush, (took about 2 minutes), then turned up a new bush.
I oil-stoned the cutting edges of an 8mm drill so the hole it bored was 7.95mm diameter then dressed the shaft, where it entered the new bush, with emery until it was a good fit.
Cost: one 8mm drill bit and about 30 minutes on the lathe.
It would be worth assessing the wear before you embark on a major repair as any competent precision engineers would be able to make bushes and fit them for you.

No special tools needed then

For myself I have a spare throttle body so will get that one done, then swap em, I am happy enough to set the butterflies and TPS myself.
Stewart

 

[Deleted account 111026]

No special tools, to remove the old bush, I used a 10mm taper tap, I screwed it into the old bush a few turns, backed it out a turn so it wasn't acting like a wedge inside the bush, then inserted a 6mm bar from the other side which contacted the end of the tap and drifted the bush out.
If it's a bit tight, gently warm the throttle body.

 

[Steptoe]

It's a noise, only heard at idle. Get over it.

 

[Stewart H]

It's a noise, only heard at idle. Get over it.

I need better earplugs
Stewart

 

[MMC]

It's a noise, only heard at idle. Get over it.

That's my fix for it at any rate. Just ignore it. S'pose I'll eventually replace/refurb the TBs but until then, I'll just rattle on.

 

[Deleted account 111026]

Just like speed limits, they're just numbers, slow down and cruuuuuise