1150 adv differences and questions

[steele01]

Totally agree mate had a hoon on a rd350lc I've had since I was 14 restoring it with dad not all about power, tried it in rain mode the other day was stacks better do think it's quite lean, looking at the pipes though, interesting regarding the surging wonder if it is the atf looking forward to getting an 1150 sure half the issues I've had with the lc is down to the dealers servicing them

 

[Flipfly]

Totally agree mate had a hoon on a rd350lc I've had since I was 14 restoring it with dad not all about power, tried it in rain mode the other day was stacks better do think it's quite lean, looking at the pipes though, interesting regarding the surging wonder if it is the atf looking forward to getting an 1150 sure half the issues I've had with the lc is down to the dealers servicing them

It'll be a culture shock!!

Mine's for sale

I love my GSA but unfortunately my little girl want's to go on the bike and I am looking at a Harley to slow me down a bit. I kept looking at 1200 twin cams but I just couldn't see the advantage over the 1150 and there were too many negatives for what I wanted.

The 1150 is dog slow, handles well as long as you don't want to throw it in to a corner, it rewards smoothness with swift uncomplicated progress. A well ridden 1150 is all the bike you ever really need, unless you spend most of your life over a ton (which is very few of us). Plan your overtakes and you will not need the extra power of the newer bikes.

I have a T595 which is significantly faster than the GS but point to point it gets to B just as quickly as the Trumpet.

Upgraded suspension will make a big enough difference to justify the cost on the GSA. The standard shocks are a bit weak and whilst very good at floating over bumps and potholes, they get a bit vague when stretching the throttle cables on a twisty road.

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

It'll be a culture shock!!

Mine's for sale

I love my GSA but unfortunately my little girl want's to go on the bike and I am looking at a Harley to slow me down a bit.

I kept looking at 1200 twin cams but I just couldn't see the advantage over the 1150 and there were too many negatives for what I wanted.

The 1150 is dog slow, handles well as long as you don't want to throw it in to a corner, it rewards smoothness with swift uncomplicated progress. A well ridden 1150 is all the bike you ever really need, unless you spend most of your life over a ton (which is very few of us). Plan your overtakes and you will not need the extra power of the newer bikes.

I have a T595 which is significantly faster than the GS but point to point it gets to B just as quickly as the Trumpet.

Upgraded suspension will make a big enough difference to justify the cost on the GSA. The standard shocks are a bit weak and whilst very good at floating over bumps and potholes, they get a bit vague when stretching the throttle cables on a twisty road.

That's a contradiction

Sophie will thank you for keeping the GSA...............one of the best pillion bikes ever made is the GS

 

[Nutty]

The 1150 is a great bike. I've seen JB's up close, and it's mintier than a polo, however, if you're thinking of chopping the lc GSA in for one, expecting it not to go wrong, or cost as much when it does, think VERY carefully, and do your research.

 

[steele01]

yeah I get you mate, guess all bikes have there issues hell the amount my LC gsa has gone wrong only two years old lol , Just doing the weigh up between warranty+3-4 services a year on the LC, then hitting the 70k mile limit on the extended warranty

vs trying to sus 1150 gsa costs out per 20k a year millage and over life time of the bike if i was spannering myself,

tricky one thats for sure

 

[Flipfly]

yeah I get you mate, guess all bikes have there issues hell the amount my LC gsa has gone wrong only two years old lol , Just doing the weigh up between warranty+3-4 services a year on the LC, then hitting the 70k mile limit on the extended warranty

vs trying to sus 1150 gsa costs out per 20k a year millage and over life time of the bike if i was spannering myself,

tricky one thats for sure

Not tricky at all. A service done by yourself is circa £50, depreciation is negligible now and so far I've only needed to replace the coil packs once for the new type and fit a new alternator belt. Total cost of bike less fuel and insurance has been two fifths of feck all. I spend less on servicing in a year than most spend on their BMW extended warrantees

Motoring on an 1150 is cheap, but man oh man are they slow compared to these new fangled plastic jobbies

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

The 1150 is a great bike. I've seen JB's up close, and it's mintier than a polo, however, if you're thinking of chopping the lc GSA in for one, expecting it not to go wrong, or cost as much when it does, think VERY carefully, and do your research.

That's true - they all cost money when they go kaput

Only advantage with the 1150 is it's a bit less complicated and the knowledge base is wider as the bike has been around for 20 years in 1100/1150 variants

Btw - Nutty you saw the scruffy one but cheers for the endorsement y

 

[Steptoe]

So whats the ideal spec then apart from none servo/ abs

Cheers,

Tom

Whatever you prefer. One mans ideal spec is another mans worst spec. Not that there's much difference apart from a few cosmetics and coloured

 

[A303]

yep totally get you mate

one thing that does my head in on the Liquid cooled is the surging believe its the fly by wire, and running lean,

Do the 1150's do that or any other quirky things

So whats the ideal spec then apart from none servo/ abs

Cheers,

Tom

Tom - 1150's Quirky ?? 100% quirky.

Surging you say ? Mike O will be along soon to discuss 1150's and surging...

By 2005 they had this sorted with the 1150's. twin spark engines etc..then of course they brought in the 1200.

Don't forget Tom you are just one of the test riders for the latest GS marque

Best of luck.

Dave

 

[Madmountainman]

Tom - 1150's Quirky ?? 100% quirky.

Surging you say ? Mike O will be along soon to discuss 1150's and surging...

By 2005 they had this sorted with the 1150's. twin spark engines etc..then of course they brought in the 1200.

Don't forget Tom you are just one of the test riders for the latest GS marque

Best of luck.

Dave

It's a bit like Phil said, some surge and some don't. My 02 bike is a lovely smooth bike to ride, though it does have an Eprom Chip. Compared to my 54 twin spark bike, it's a better ride, but not by much. I think i've been fortunate with all four of my 1150's, as none of them have surged. I did have some problems with fueling and/or the spark cutting out on one bike though, but that had done the best part of 100K.

 

[steele01]

Was there any issues with the 2002's lads just seen a immaculate 40k miles fbsh 2 owner bike anyone off here was traded into a main dealer

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

2002 were the best

 

[steele01]

Cheers mate black engine and wishbone on front? On an 02 plate but noticed it had an abs servo sticker on The tank and brake failure light was on, also slight tapping when on choke shut up on idle though

 

[Madmountainman]

Was there any issues with the 2002's lads just seen a immaculate 40k miles fbsh 2 owner bike anyone off here was traded into a main dealer

02's are good bikes, but they were also the very first Adventures, so do have one or two problems, mainly shared with the standard 1150's as well. They're mainly the cosmetics, final drives, shaft seals, hall sensor failures and the like. However, I believe that Fanum had a similar feuling/sparking problem as one of mine did, and his woes/diagnosis of the problem was well documented on here. That said, he will probably say the single spark Adventures are the best one to have. Check for wobbles/play in the rear wheel, noisy/wobbly butteflies in the throttle bodies, clattery tensioners and the aforementioned surging on a test ride. Other than that, it's air cooled, so noisy. Go with cosmetic condition and lots of paperwork/history. If it's got all that , you'll likely have a good one.

 

[steele01]

Cheers mate great advice missed out on that one sure Ill find the right one for me

 

[davnjud]

If you really want a non surging gs that is buttery smooth on the throttle an 1100 with carb conversion is the way I decided to go after riding 1200's. Have not been disappointed, after all the 1100 was originally designed with carbs and all these later problems come from trying to get Fi to work on on a big flat twin. Carbed bikes are like hens teeth and can't see me giving mine up for a long time.

 

[Madmountainman]

If you really want a non surging gs that is buttery smooth on the throttle an 1100 with carb conversion is the way I decided to go after riding 1200's. Have not been disappointed, after all the 1100 was originally designed with carbs and all these later problems come from trying to get Fi to work on on a big flat twin. Carbed bikes are like hens teeth and can't see me giving mine up for a long time.

Matkat had one and it rode really well, but the trouble is the 11's a bit on the low/small side when you're my height and, although it has been done to an 1150, it's not a perfect solution.