1150 Power to weight KW's

does this help?the power to wieght thing is no more as far as i can see, when i fitted restrictor kits it was, but theres no ref to this anymore,,,,
before , (15yrs ago:augie)the power to wieght (nothing to do wi wieght of rider)meant a learner fireblade was around 70bhp!!!probably why they changed it???





Motorcycle riders in the UK must normally take a one-day Compulsory Basic Training (CBT) course, regardless of which class of motorcycle they intend to ride.[6] In addition a theory test must be taken prior to taking a practical test for any type of motorcycle licence.
Entry level to motorcycling at age 16 is the moped, a motorcycle of engine capacity no greater than 50 cc restricted to a maximum design speed of 50 km/h (31 mph).[6]
At age 17 the rider may have a "light motorcycle" with an engine up to 125 cc and a power output not exceeding 11 kW (15 hp). Only a CBT certificate, obtained within the past two years, and a provisional licence is needed to ride a learner motorcycle with an L-plate. After passing a test on a 125 cc machine, riders will be restricted to ride a "large restricted motorcycle", which has a maximum power output of 25 kW (34 hp). After two years this restriction is lifted and any size or power of motorcycle may be ridden.[6]
For riders over age 21 there is a direct access route to gaining a licence to ride a "large motorcycle" of any engine capacity or power,[6] which allows somebody with no motorcycle experience to train and pass a test in around five days.
Three-wheeled vehicles weighing less than 8 cwt (896 lb / 406 kg) were long classified as motorcycles in the UK and could be driven with a full motorcycle licence. A requirement there be no reverse gear fitted was dropped in the 1960s. This exemption was linked to the enduring popularity of three-wheeled vehicles in the UK (such as the Reliant Regal van) but was abolished for new licence holders in October 2000.[7] Mass-production of three-wheelers ceased in 1998 but the licensing exemption still benefits trikes and their riders.
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Restrictors

I have seen 1150GS restricters regularly on Ebay, either .co.uk or .de for 120 Euros.
You could fit them yourself quite easily.
Although if the Tax or insurance people want proof you will need a dealer to fit it for you.
 
Fair Play to all, Thanks. Have emailed that guy to see if it comes with a cert so at least if I get my own mechanic to fit it then I will have a cert.

regards
Rob

If it comes with a certificate it won't be worth the paper it's printed on, at least if the system in Ireland is like ours. The certification that is required in the UK is to confirm that the kit has been fitted to your specific bike and tested by an approved fitter to provide the required restriction. A certificate proving that you've bought a kit (which you or someone else may or may not have fitted!) won't cut it.

There's a bit more information about the certification here:

http://www.fiinternational.com/FiResKitA42.pdf

and although this relates to the UK and not Ireland the following off the same website is worth reading:

FI International said:
Restrictor kits can only be fitted by an approved and qualified dealer. Fitting also registers the restriction into the FI International master database and this will generate a certificate that you will recieve as proof of restriction

IMO if you're not going to have a kit that's officially certified, there's little point in doing the restriction in the first place - just ride a bit slower so no-one suspects :D
 
Does anyone know what the power to weight KiloWatt ratio is on the 1150GS?

I know the KW is 65.2 (Or is it 62.5) and horse power is 95 but this is not the exact answer when it takes the weight into account.

The reason I am asking is because of licence issues!!!!!

Thanks in advance

Rob

IMO it's over the limit. Take your chances:augie
 
Of course its over the limit.. seems to me the Op is trying to be 'clever' and is failing miserably. The rules have nothing to do with power to weight ratios.. its a flat rate limit. 33Bhp or 25Kw.

And what Fi International say about being fitted officially and a cert issued is complete nonsense.. And just them trying to over-egg their own importance.

Its completely legal to fit a restrictor yourself.. if Insurance demands proof.. then toddle along to any dyno and have a print run off showing max power is 33bhp.

its as simple as that.
 
The rules have nothing to do with power to weight ratios.. its a flat rate limit. 33Bhp or 25Kw.

The 'rules' (law) in the UK are nothing to do with power to weight, but the OP is in Ireland where things may be different.

And what Fi International say about being fitted officially and a cert issued is complete nonsense.

A friend of mine couldn't get insurance (on a Transalp) unless he could produce a certificate to prove that it was restricted in line with his restricted licence. Whether they'd have accepted a dyno print-out as evidence I don't know, but it was academic as he couldn't ride a bike to a dyno centre without insurance anyway.
 
The 'rules' (law) in the UK are nothing to do with power to weight, but the OP is in Ireland where things may be different.



A friend of mine couldn't get insurance (on a Transalp) unless he could produce a certificate to prove that it was restricted in line with his restricted licence. Whether they'd have accepted a dyno print-out as evidence I don't know, but it was academic as he couldn't ride a bike to a dyno centre without insurance anyway.

yep.. rules are exactly the same in Ireland.. they're european wide!!

Insurance will accept a dyno printout. .. on other forums with a lot of newbie riders this is much discussed. doesn't matter if the restriction is a gadget or few washers from Fi International.. or a simple throttle stop. the bike must produce 33bhp (25Kw) or less at full throttle.
 
yep.. rules are exactly the same in Ireland.. they're european wide!!

D'oh! Of course - I'd forgotten we had Europe to blame for the stepped licence cr*p. Fortunately for me my car and bike tests both happened long before they tried to make it hard for people to get on the road.....
 
yep.. rules are exactly the same in Ireland.. they're european wide!!

Insurance will accept a dyno printout. .. on other forums with a lot of newbie riders this is much discussed. doesn't matter if the restriction is a gadget or few washers from Fi International.. or a simple throttle stop. the bike must produce 33bhp (25Kw) or less at full throttle.

I must check with insurance Co. to see if they will accept a Dyno reading and if so will go for the one on fleabay and get my own mechanic to fit it.
But ironically in all this is that when I arrived home today there was a letter in the post form my insuance company (Quinn-Direct) in relation to licence laws and 25KW/33hp, so they are obviously trying to crack down on it, but annoying thing is that they were willing to take my money for the past 2 years.:mad:
 
all this european crap!

:bounce1thank god its so simple here on the isle of man:toungincheek
all this talk of power to wight ratio's!
laymans terms ;
restricted licence = max power of 33bhp irrespective of capacity. (there is a power/wieght restriction in there too, so no rs250 prillia's straight away:mad:) for two years :rob
direct access= over 21, take your test on a machine of over 47 bhp and ride what ya want, simples:rolleyes:
just to make ya'll sick :toungincheek here on the sunny iom, 3 steps
1 cbt
2 theory test
3 take your test on a 125

then ride what ya want :thumb2
and ya can do that at 16 !!!!!!!!
 


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