1200 GSA performance

I've done big miles on a 1100, 1150's and now a 1200. The illusion of lack of grunt in the 1200 is, in my opinion, just due to the fact the power comes in with a kick at 5500rpm after a pretty ordinary power deliver at lower revs whereas the earlier bikes had the feel of having a much flatter torque curve which gave an impression of turbine like limitless grunt from tickover to red line. If you were able to somehow tune-out the kick at 5500rpm I reckon you'd think you were riding the earlier bikes, it's just a case of what you get used to, and therfore very subjective.

Ever ridden a tiny two stroke? even 15bhp feels epic when it all comes in with a bang even though trucks are out-dragging you.

There's no getting away from the figures that show the 1200 is making more power and is significantly lighter so it simply must accelerate harder - as long as you are revving it. It may be the reluctance to do this is why some owners prefer the low down grunt of the 1150 in particular which therefore 'feels' more torquey.

I do miss the lazy top gear of the 1100/1150 on the motorway but there's no doubt that for me the 1200 is a far quicker bike on 'A' roads. For riders that are happy to cruise along and never really explore velocities above the national speed limit, or shy from driving the engine with a degree of verve and gusto I can again see why the 1200 could be seen as a bit flat, and in this respect BMW may alienate their traditional buyers, but that's progress, or at least where BM see their future market!

Finally, the gear-change does get smoother as the miles increase, as does the engine. Remus headers do seem to unleash more power but it they won't transform the bike into a torquier 1150, if anything they enhance the kick at the top end.

Rick, mate - I like your response! I have always figured that there are several stages associated with new motorcycle ownership - of course at first everything is new and I just get on with riding whilst not really noticing things about the bike, then after a couple of thousand miles I start noticing those little things 'things', then after a few months I seem to go through the "is it meant to do that" and start noticing all the little things and then wonder is this how it is meant to be! After about a year when fully familiar with the bike I just get on with ownership and enjoy myself............maybe I should stop buying new bikes! In the meantime I'll just see if I can get into the 'new' BMW groove.

Thanks again for everones opinions.....................
 
stay in 4th gear and use it like a 2 stroke rev its bxxxxxxxs off use 5th 6th on moterway no probs overtakes, sweeps,roll on roll off best gear on the bike
bikes are not like cars you dont have to get in top gear all the time
 
Roll on/ Roll off

I can remember similar discussions about the 1150. In fact you may be surprised how small a throttle opening you generally use; Just try rolling your right hand forward a little before you open up to give you ' a real fistful' of throttle.' Then hang on a little tighter than normal !
 
Bit I don't want a two stroke!

Just been looking back through some magazine articles and noticed that the quoted power output for the 1200 GS ranges anywhere between 83 and 96 at the rear wheel. Source is Bike and TWO magazine articles from the past three years.

I understand that they all use the same dyno in Peterborough - so what gives?
 
Jon

All engines are individual and I`m pretty certain it`s how they are run in and looked after from new. I ran mine in using lots of gearchanges and load on the engine and didn`t go on any motorways for the 1st 600 miles. It`s never used a drop of the black stuff, goes like a train and as I said in my last post, it`s way better all round than either my 1150 or 1100.

It`s a completely different bike in many ways and my advice would be to just get out, ride it like you stole it and just ENJOY it. :D:D

I wouldn`t bother myself about comparing it and would spend more time looking out for Moose and Bears.......:eek::eek::eek:
 
I only have experience with R1200GS and a R1200GS Adv, and none of them had a flatspot.

For a more scientific approach you can do a few 4th gear roll-ons from 30 - 50 mph with a pillion. Have the passenger use a stopwatch, or find a friend with a PerformanceBox. Then try the same on a different Adv. At least you will know if there is something off with yours :)
 
1200GS

I cannot agree with you at all I am araid; Each of my last three bikes (above) have felt quicker, more responsive and easier to ride than the previous; It sounds to me that a check on the dealer's computer will rectify things for you.

I agree with Brian! I have a new 1200GS that has just done 1600 miles and been run in carefully. When ridden carefully and legally it can feel a bit flat. I have just fitted a full Remus sytem, and it has made a difference; I no longer need to drop a gear to go around and accelerate out of corners, it pulls freely in 6th. Once you rev it, the flat spot around 5000 rpm has gone and it is smooth and consistent in the power delivery. It is an expensive option after buying a new bike, but I feel that it has improved the overall rider experience and it sounds FANTASTIC!!

Eng
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No experience

"ride it like you stole it " ....now, what exactly does that mean? I would imagine as unobtusively as possible - difficult on a GS! Perhaps that is why they are not stolen so often?
(Here in France to be insured against theft you must use an approved U lock or similar when parked and evry part of the bike has to be tatooed with a special number.) Sorry if I have wandered from the thread! Perhaps the REmus exhaust helps.... " it sounds FANTASTIC!!"
 
"ride it like you stole it " ....now, what exactly does that mean? I would imagine as unobtusively as possible - difficult on a GS! Perhaps that is why they are not stolen so often?
(Here in France to be insured against theft you must use an approved U lock or similar when parked and evry part of the bike has to be tatooed with a special number.) Sorry if I have wandered from the thread! Perhaps the REmus exhaust helps.... " it sounds FANTASTIC!!"

No worries about theft over here (one reason we moved) Never lose car keys again - you simply leave them hanging in the ignition, even my bike..............everyone knows everyone, we never lock the inn and nothing ever walks........well, OK, two years ago some kids took an '85 nissan for a spin - but they brought it back!
 
of course..............but they didn't do a very good job!:thumb2
 


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